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Slow cooking, American style

The British people have taken to barbecuing in a big way in recent years, but Stephen Evans has found this form of cooking is seen in a completely different light on the other side of the Atlantic.

New York used to be a bit of a culinary desert.

It is true you could get many foods here – Peruvian or Ethiopian or something called "Nuevo Latino" or even British – Salt and Battery – a fish and chip shop on 2nd Avenue, if you want to know.

But what you had a hard job finding was the greatest cuisine this country produces.

I refer, of course, to barbecue – not what the rest of the world thinks of as barbecue where a slab of meat is thrown on a grill over high flame for a short time.

That is not barbecue, that is grilling.

Barbecue is low and slow.

Slow cooking

It is essentially pork ribs or beef in Texas – covered in a wet, spicy marinade or rubbed with dry spices – and then smoked in a covered drum or over a pit of embers.

Hard woods like hickory, oak or mesquite are used and when the flames have died to nothing, the meat is put in the smoky chamber from dawn to dusk.

A 10lb (4.5kg) piece of beef brisket, for example, demands at least 10 hours of low, slow smoking.

Anyway, barbecue has just come to New York City in the form of a festival.

The country's great pitmasters hitched their smokers – great cast-iron tubes with chimneys – to their pick-up trucks and set up stall in Madison Square Park.

There they served New Yorkers a feast.

Mike "Sarge" Davis from the Whole Hog Cafe in Little Rock, Arkansas, offered St Louis spare ribs from his trailer.

Otis Walker from Smoki O's in Missouri served Pig Snoot sandwich – pig's nose, to you and me, delicious and crisp.

Pitmaster Michael Rodriguez of the Saltlick BBQ in Driftwood in Texas offered brisket sandwich.

Americana

And the taste and the smell was divine, a mixture of wood smoke and meat tender enough to melt.

But also something else – a piece of Americana.

You felt like you were eating history, sharing a land. This was not just food. This was a people and a culture.

Barbecue is essentially Southern – Deep South Dixie, plus Texas.

Its origins are unclear, though a Spaniard in 1526 described what the Indians called "barbacoa" when they roasted meat on sticks over fire.

The first hogs, by the way, were deposited in the Americas – in Cuba – by Christopher Columbus in 1493.

Waves of emigrants adapted this cuisine of the Spanish conqueror, and native Americans.

Slaves from Africa added spices.

For rich and poor

In central Texas around the town of Elgin, they barbecue sausages where the Czechs and Germans settled.

In Memphis, Tennessee, there is kosher barbecue.

Jews there, and there is a big Jewish community in Memphis, got so tantalised by the smell of barbecued pork that they developed their own style with beef.

Barbecue remains stratified.

When I went to Alabama recently, there were black barbecue stalls and white barbecue stalls with people of one colour rarely crossing the divide.

Though it is said that during segregation – only 50 years ago, when any meeting of the races was actually against the law – black and white would rub shoulders and chew ribs at the back of barbecue places, united illegally by a love for the food.

It is for the moneyed and the poor.

If you stop at a highway stall in the South, you will see a man in a tie leaning against his Lexus, trying to keep the sauce from dripping down his white shirt alongside a mechanic chomping in his pick-up truck.

Class can intrude, though. There is a Southern saying if a woman is a bit grand, "She's a quiche lady in a barbecue town".

So, what is the appeal?

Firstly, it tastes great – tender pork ribs or beef in Texas, moist but with the fat drained away by hours of cooking.

Secondly, there is a whole aroma of association.

Taste of home

I met the great broadcaster and Texan, Dan Rather, at the New York festival.

Barbecue for him is about memory – personal childhood memories of his grandmother knocking a tree above a barbecue pit to clear it of snakes before cooking.

And folk memory.

Dan Rather believes that you cannot understand America without having some feel for the way the West was opened and the aroma of wood-smoke evokes this ancient emotion.

Maybe.

I love barbecue because it is authentic, unpretentious cooking, redolent of place and people. And taste, of course.

Always remember, contrary to what they say, America is the home of slow food.

From Our Own Correspondent was broadcast on Saturday, 18 June, 2005 at 1130 BST on BBC Radio 4. Please check the programme schedules for World Service transmission times.

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Fund to aid UK casualties

A relief fund has been established to help soldiers injured while fighting in the war in Iraq.

The UK Forces Gulf Fund will also provide short-term assistance to the relatives of servicemen and women who are killed in the conflict, the Ministry of Defence said.

It is likely that the money – raised through public donations – will be used to help bereaved relatives or injured troops in the weeks before their pension payments start.

The fund could also help to pay for injured soldiers to receive the latest medical equipment such as hearing aids.

However, it will not be used to fund claims for compensation as there are already schemes in place to deal with this.

Civilian personnel accompanying the armed forces on Operation Telic – the name for UK military operations against Saddam's regime in Iraq – will also be eligible for help.

A similar fund set up during the 1991 Gulf War raised £3 million through public donations, and a Falklands War fund raised £17 million.

Endorsed by the MoD, the fund is being run by the United Services Trustee and the Charities Aid Foundation.

  • The public can make donations by debit or credit card on the fund's website – www.UKForcesGulfFund.org – or by telephone on 0800 107 0200.

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Dishing the dirt

Until now, what goes on behind the kitchen doors of your local curry house or pizzeria has been a well-kept secret. But plans are afoot in some parts of the country to put hygiene reports online.

Standing on the pavement outside a restaurant, what sways the decision over whether to step inside?

The look of the restaurant's interior, its popularity, the kind of food it serves play the biggest part, research has shown.

Soon, cleanliness could also be a consideration with a new scheme set to make restaurant hygiene ratings public. In London, reports compiled by local hygiene inspectors will appear online and there will be a five-star award system, with certificates to be displayed on the restaurant wall.

The pilot scheme, provisionally titled Scores on the Doors, is being co-ordinated by the Food Standards Agency, and will extend to Scotland and the East Midlands. Details of restaurants in the capital will go online from April next year.

From the swishest eateries, through the High Street sandwich shop, down to the local takeaway, and even supermarkets, environmental health reports will be laid bare. Mice and all.

It follows similar schemes in the US, Canada and New Zealand plus home-grown ones like Leicester's "SmileSafe" rating – another model being tested – where a smiley, or not-so-smiley, face is displayed in restaurants.

For years, such hygiene reports were kept confidential from the public. The recent Freedom of Information Act has changed that – allowing anyone to access data held by public bodies. But a 20-day waiting time for results somewhat crushes the spontaneity of dashing out for a bite to eat.

The FSA hopes that inter-restaurant peer pressure will prompt eateries to display their rating. And the theory runs that if environmental health data is made so public, it can only push it up the priority list.

London restaurants will be given star ratings based on factors like food hygiene and handling practices, how good the management are and how structured, or ramshackle, the place is. It will take up to 18 months for all restaurants to be rated.

Before heading out to eat, diners will be able to check their destination – by restaurant name, by area and, eventually, by cuisine type.

If the restaurant has a bad day when the inspector comes calling, says, environmental health officer Rick Mason, involved in setting up the London scheme, that's just "tough". Restaurants will have two weeks to appeal any decision, however.

NYC's golden apples

For consumer watchdog Which?, the idea cannot come soon enough. Its research in March found 97% of people wanted this information to be made public. And it hopes the FSA will decide which scheme – online rating or on-the-wall certificates – works best, and back it, as soon as possible.

"Consumers are in the dark," says Which? chief policy adviser Sue Davies. "People travel around the country so it's important there's a consistent national scheme."

Choosing a restaurant is an increasingly important call. The restaurant and take-away bill is the fourth most popular destination for our money after housing, cars and food shopping for home.

But how much can these websites and reports really tell the diner?

Evidence from abroad, like the New York scheme, show a great deal. Ever wondered how that restaurant once visited in Manhattan fares? It is on the website. The site has "alerts" to highlight truly bad and "Golden Apples" for those with excellent standards.

If nothing else, they are a fascinating read, and, for example, diners heading for the White Plains Road, in the Bronx, are advised to avoid some restaurants for their rife cockroaches and absent hand-washing facilities outside staff loos.

But how much attention will people in Britain pay to this information? Even the FSA's research shows punters trust their own judgement. Surely we instinctively know if somewhere is dodgy?

Environmental health officers say it should help customers avoid the worst cases they see… "particularly bad infestation of cockroaches, rats and mice. Extremely bad handling practices of raw and cooked meats".

"Some businesses spend money on the front but don't worry too much about what goes on behind the scenes," says Mr Mason.

Information indigestion

Many restaurateurs welcome the idea but fear it may baffle would-be diners, scaring them off with too much detail.

"It's probably a good thing," says Peter Harden, co-editor of Harden's guides to London and UK restaurants. "Knowing that the customers are going to get this information will move it up the priority scale, particularly for the chain restaurants."

Worryingly, however, he says mice and cockroaches are a common kitchen staple – "especially in London, a vermin-infested rat-hole". Their presence may shock a naive diner, but it is how the restaurant deals with the problem that is crucial.

If the online detail and the baffling stars on the wall are too much, he says, perhaps the traditional approach to gauging a restaurant is best, he suggests.

"It's an old adage, and not perfect, but the states of the loos are a very good test. If they're not organised enough to keep the loos clean, it tells you all you need to know about their hygiene."

Add your comments on this story, using the form below.

I remember working in an upmarket place which prepared swanky boardroom lunches in the City many years ago. Our days always started by turning the lights on and hitting as many cockroaches as possible before they headed for cover. Infestations of insects and rodents where there is food are more common than people realise.
Susan, London

I was made aware of the scores on the doors website a few weeks ago. I looked up my local (very popular and busy) Vietnamese takeaway – needless to say I won't be going there again. It scored zero stars for everything, with comments such as "No confidence in management" etc. Disgusting.
Paul Howarth, London.

I've been in many cafes and restaurants where the facilities were absolutely spotless and you could see that they were cleaned regularly. However, that is all somewhat spoiled when you then see a member of staff, in the middle of preparing food, sneezing and blowing their nose at the cookers and going straight back to preparing it without washing their hands.
Michael, Belfast, Northern Ireland

A great idea that should be extended to schools, hospitals and work canteens. We all pay for poor food hygiene via the NHS & should therefore have access to all the facts.
Mark Blackman, London

The US version of the so-called food inspectors is riddled with incompetent unqualified hacks, with no real training, experience, standards except some other hack writing up military-style temperature requirements, use of cleansers and soap solution. The first criteria for hygiene inspectors should be proper educational background of at least a college degree in the particular scientific field and food preparation, followed by hands-on training. To spot infestation by roaches, mice and other vermin does not take a genius.
Mohinder L. Jerath, Ph.D, Toxicologist, Atlanta, USA

Having worked with food as a waitress, barmaid and ferry stewardess I welcome these reports being free for all to see. I worked hard to make sure everything I did was perfectly hygienic and public praise for that would be nice!
Holly, Surrey, UK

I used to work in hotels as a teenager and that episode of Faulty Towers where the health inspector calls was uncannily close to the truth…
Ken Morton, Glasgow, Scotland, UK

About time! At least customers can make informed choices & it will bring standards up.
Marvin, Birmingham

As a former head chef I can tell you first hand that some of the hotels and restaurants that I worked would not allow for cleaning in terms of both time and money. I was always forced to live on the edge with owners saying one thing when EHOs appeared and privately another thing. It really comes down to the owners of these places to budget, allow time for these things and not just chasing more profits at the expense of hygiene.
Adrian Champion, Crewe

Is Glasgow ahead of the game here? For some time we have been able to access reports on inspected premises in the city on the council's website. The information covers inspection of restaurants, food stores, care homes, and other places where food is sold or served.
Sandra, Glasgow

Surely any places with unsatisfactory standards of hygiene should just be closed down? I have no objection to results being online and public, but why allow them to operate if they are shoddy?
Louisa, Dewsbury, West Yorks

I think it's a great idea to let people know whether their local pizzeria is up to standards. But would this not put a damper on businesses? You don't want to scare people off eating out, especially in places that are willing to improve themselves.
Brett, Amble, Northumberland

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Island organic food study planned

The amount of organic food being bought by residents in Jersey could be studied by the island's Organic Association.

It is hoping to apply for financing to the States ecology fund.

People who grow organic food in the island say it is very popular, but there are no figures on exactly how much produce is being grown and sold.

Farmers would be asked on a confidential basis for information about how much and what kind of produce they are growing.

The ecology fund, which was set up with money from the Amoco Cadiz tanker disaster settlement, aims to support local projects which help to benefit the environment.

If funding is granted, the association will employ a student to carry out the survey.

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Top nosh – here in Britain

Tuesday, 29 April, 2003, 08:34 GMT 09:34 UK Top nosh – here in Britain
Ambience and location are important to diners
Britain has bagged 20% of the places on a list of the world's top restaurants.

Published in Restaurant Magazine, the list is topped by a restaurant serving French cuisine – in California.

But getting 11 places on a list of the top 50 best restaurants in the world has banished the image of Britain as a culinary wasteland.

  • On Breakfast we spoke to Ruth Rogers of the River Cafe which made it onto the list and Jay Rayner, restaurant critic.

Ruth Rogers said that the culture in British restaurants had changed over the past ten years or so – people seem to be more relaxed and expecting a good time: "people come with children, Sunday lunch lasts for hours, you can eat well and be casually dressed."

Jay Rayner disputed that the UK should actually have 20% of the top places.

For him a really top restaurant – worthy of making the list – had to have a sense of place – "that you could only be having that experience in that restaurant… and the food is absolutely vital".

But he agreed that restaurants in Britain have improved massively over the last few years.

However he pointed out that there was still a price problem for people on ordinary incomes wanting to eat out.

There is a problem – you have a top level which is generally very good, but we lack a good mid-range

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Festivals 2005: Your reviews

Music fans are enjoying another summer of festivals – and we would like to hear what you thought of this year's events.

Whether it is a rock, dance, classical or jazz event, and wherever in the world it is, we want your account of what happened.

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Went to the Secret Garden Festival. Had a fantastic time – there were only about 2,500 people there. No commercialism, but great attention to detail. Saw the Super Furry Animals, Hard Fi & Desmond Dekker to name just a few. No over the top security, just a very chilled out, live and let live atmosphere. I'll definitely go next year.
Steph, London, UK

This year we ventured abroad to Spain for . the FIB festival in Beneccasim. The ticket was included 9 days camping and 4 days of music ending with a massive beach party which was madness! What better way to spend a holiday than to hang out on the beach by day and listen to fantastic live music at night? The highlight for me was definately Kasabian…so much better than Oasis and there was a perfect mix of bands from The Cure to Underworld. The campsite was ace with it's 24 hour bar, the weather even better…just try and stop me from going back next year!!!
jo, London

Have just got back from InFest 2005 in Bradford at the University, an alternative electronic/industrial festival. It's hard to believe its in its eighth year (I have been to seven now) and it just gets better and better! It's certainly the best value for money at £30 per ticket and accommodation in halls for £55 for three days. Highlights had to be Covenant, who really seemed to be glad to be back after 2001, bouncing around the stage with gay abandon and at one point handing the mike to the audience; Pow[d]er Pussy, a suprise with some stunning danceable noise/industrial and Fixmer/Macarthy – hard industrial with an early 80's electronic feel. Organisers were helpful, the comparing was fantastic and the set decoration was atmospheric. Security were friendly with a light touch (their main duties seemed to be opening the fire doors when it got hot and preventing glass bottles from going on the dance floor); the bar staff were enthusiastic and friendly, even dressing up for the occaision. Festival goers were friendly and I got to see some old and new faces this year. The sparkly falls are packed away and the goth stuff in the wash, but roll on InFest 2006!
J. Marshall, Bedford

I went to Leeds and it was AWESOME! The only downer was the small number of idiots causing trouble and the heavy-handed security force which were a total disgrace.
John Pybus, York, UK

Without a doubt, the Glade festival wins habds down! I have been going to festivals for over 10 years now and it was my first time at this particular one – and my god, what a weekend! Despite the fact I was on crutches due to an accident earlier in the week I had a fantastic tie, everyone was so friendly and open and the music was fantastic… Hilight was watching the sun rise on the Sunday morning while drinking chai surrounded by loads of friends listening to psy-trance. Perfect!
Sharon Irvine, London, UK

For the second year in a row I went along to the Cropredy Folk Rock Festival this summer. Last year I only went on the Friday and Saturday but this year I went for the Thursday as well. It was fabulous, marred only by the weather – it rained nearly all day Saturday. There is only the one sound stage and there are about 10,000 people there so by festival standards it is quite small, but I like it that way. There is a mixture of people in their fifties who have been fairport fans for years down to teenagers. Its very friendly and there is no trouble of any sort – apart from last year when a fight nearly broke out between 2 rival sets of Morris Dancers!! Lots of choice of things to eat and a well stocked Beer Stall with a good selection of drinks, including wine.In addition to the Fairport Convention set which always closes the festival on Saturday, highlights for me were Country Joe MacDonald, the Muffin Men and the Ukelele Orchestra of Great Britain. The latter were absolutely fantastic. They are such talented musicians and their special take on different numbers is quite unique and hugely funny. All of the numbers they played and sung were terrific but my favourites were Kate Bush's Heathcliff, Status Quo's Caroline, the theme tune from the Good Bad and the Ugly, Ms Dy-na-mi-tee,Talking Head's Psycho Killer and Deep Purple's Smoke on the Water. If they are on near you go to see them – they are astonishing. Can't wait for next year!
Mary Heaton, London, England

Leeds festival was amazing, the lineup wasn't as good as last year, but it was still great. The security staff were nothing but thugs with shields and batons. They really caused more trouble then they solved. Next year things should happen all night, not close everything at 11pm. That way, people would be able to expel their energy by dancing! What else are 50,000 people going to do other then cause trouble? The staff could not control the crowd, the main fire was surrounded by 10,000 people, the fire went out for a total of 5 minutes before it was re-lit, it then went on past 6am. I am very dissapointed at how the festival ended.
Jason , Colchester, Essex

Just got back from Reading Festival which was incredible. The atmosphere was unique, the weather perfect and the bands were brilliant. I felt the Pixies stole the show playing a brilliant set of classic tracks.
Rob, Bucks, England

Five of us went to Amsterdam for Dance Valley, one of the biggest dance music festivals in the world. For the first time, they decided to make it a weekend event instead of just one day. Loads of brilliant DJs and such a great atmosphere despite the pouring rain which didn't dampen our spirits. On the last night we saw Paul Van Dyk play to a hill full of clubbers, with flowers and paper hearts being dropped onto us from a passing helicopter and the best laser and lighting show I've ever seen. The memories of it will last forever.
Lysa Nelson, Bristol, UK

Annoyed, very annoyed, the organisers of the Leeds festival have not "organised" anywhere to charge your mobile phone onsite. The last 2 years have been fine, so what happened this year?
fee, scotland

I've been to seven festivals so far this year : Off The Tracks, Oyster Band Big Session, National Forest Folk Festival, Rock & Blues Custom Show, Fairports Cropredy Convention, Summer Sundae (Sunday only) and finally Beautiful Days. From over twenty years of festival going I have to say that Beautiful Days has to be one of the best ever and easily the most enjoyable this year. Well done Levellers, see you next year.
Ewen, Leicester, UK

I went to the 2nd annual Dubai Desert Rock Festival! I am an expat living in Dubai and this festival is the first of its kind in the middle east! It was a hot but brilliant day with fabulous bands playing from Machine Head to The Darkness (who were my highlight!). The atmosphere was amazing and i cant wait for Dubai Desert Rock 2006!
Patty, Dubai, UAE

Returned this week from my 7th V Festival at Chelmsford and have to say I think some of the comment son this page are wholly unfair. Sure there can be large queues at gates, and yes, it can take a long time to leave the car park on Sunday night or Monday morning – but waht the heck do you expect when there are that many people there!? I think these people may be better of with a night at The Proms and a stay at the Park Lane Sheraton!! Well done all involved in organising this and every other years V Fests. It was a blinder…
Kevin Day, Horley, Surrey

I went to Summer Sundae in Leicester and it was absolutely fab. It's one of the smaller festivals but there were 4 stages and heaps of great bands and artists. Sons and Daughters were great on Friday, as were Editors and Tom Vek in the pouring rain on Saturday afternoon! I'm only 14 and this was the first festival i've been to so it was a brilliant introduction – a huge thumbs up to the organisers!
harriet , derby, england

Still wearing (with pride) my wrist band from FIB Benicassim in Spain. Out of 35,000 people, there were 8,000 brits. Made for a really good atmosphere, lots of people to talk to! Music wise, Maximo Park stole the festival for me.!!! (or powpowpow, or ch ch ch as they are known) were incredible too. Polyphonic Spree, Oasis and Basement Jaxx all turned in great performances too. Camping in 37degrees heat wasn't much fun though. Spent the days sleeping in the towns covered bandstand! Will return next year, for sure!
thomas ganderton, redditch, worcs

Beautiful Days is the place to be nowadays for the ultimate chilled out festy vibe, but dont tell anyone…
Jonny Kohoutec, Exeter

Went to V in Staffs, excellent line up – Kaiser Chiefs stole the show and I only had 1 bad toilet experience. Have already booked my tickets for next year.
Alison, Thatcham, Berks

Fuji Rock Concert in Naeba, Japan was incredible. Three days of camping and pouring rain only added to the crowd's energy. Kaiser Chiefs put on a great show – especially to a newer audience. Definetly worth all the yen.
Martine, Yokohama, Japan

Having been to the big events, Glastonbury and Reading festival, I went to a much smaller and more oganic festival this year: The Green Man Festival. It was such a mellow and friendly festival and really small (about 1000 people) playing marginal progressive folk music in all it's current incarnations. Being able to walk from you tent to the main area in 5 minutes was a mighty relief and the absolutely gorgeous weather all made our time there superb. I think I shall be sticking to the smaller festies next year!
Liam, London, UK

Second time going to the V Festival in Staffs. So very disappointed – while the bands were great, I have to agree with many others that it was terribly organised. This year, for some reason, they refused to allow people to take in their folding camping chairs, but neglected to let people know this in advance. This meant that lots of people queued for ages to get into the arena, and then were turned away when they got to the gate as they had chairs with them. The prices inside were outrageous. The stewards were so poorly informed / trained as no one had any idea where anything was. And there were no rubbish bins anywhere – the arena at the end of the day was disgusting. Overall picture was poor – which is too bad, as I had a blast there last year.
Jennifer, London, UK

The Glade festival has to be the best festival in Britain right now. It seems a bit forgotten, but that is part of the beauty. No corporate sponsorship rubbish, no posers and that's how I hope it stays. 3 days of pure electronic bliss. Everyone there was there because they love the music, not because it's the place to be seen or the 'cool' thing to go to. The atmosphere was amazing. I don't think I've ever felt so sad about leaving an event before.
Sarah, Bristol

The Reading Festival was as great as ever, with some of the best bands in the world on stage plus loads of new talent on display. Top performance (again) has to go to Kasabian, with Arcade Fire as the next big thing to hit these shores. A bit poppier than in previous years, with The Killers and Razorlight, but all together a great weekend – with no mud!!
Gina Smith, Bucks

I've been to three festivals this summer – firstly the Isle Of Wight Festival in June: Great weather, very relaxed atmosphere and only having one stage meant there was no decisions on who to see and what to miss out on. Then Dance Valley in Amsterdam at the start of this month: rain, rain, rain and more rain turned it into a mud-filled Glasto-style festival… except the BBC weather site had forecast 100% fine weather. Thanks for that, BBC – not. Stages were closed and the festival shut dead on 11pm on the Saturday – and this was a dance festival? Will go to Glade next year as that sounded fab. Last weekend was V at Chelmsford. Yes there was queuing and yes we had rain putting up our tents on Friday and packing up on Monday but this was the best festival of the summer for me. Great line up, fine weather on the main days and you could take your own water and soft drinks in so the previous reviewer was unlucky (there were drinking water stands too in the arena btw…). Bring on 2006 and Glasto in 2007!
Keeley, London, UK

Went to Lost Vagueness near Lewes, fantastic little festival, al the punters got into the spirit and wore fancy dress from Suits/Ballgowns to 50's dresses to very little at all. All the mostly unheard bands were excellent, and the Casino and Cabaret tents had to be seen to be believed! The poledancers on stilts were incredible! A big thumbs up to the organisers!
Nick Page, Eltham, London

I went to V and thought it was fab. Oasis, Jet , Athlete, Maroon 5 put on a great show. Fantastic atmosphere – Only shame of weekend was the rip -off prices. We weren't allowed to take our own plastic bottles of water into the event. However they were happy to charge us £2 per small bottle once inside!
Gavin, London

V Festival, Essex: The best 2 days of my life so far and I'm only 15.
Lewis miles, Harwich England

The Glade festival did it for me this year, better than Glasto actually! A similar non-corporate vibe, only 15,000 people for an intimate feel in a truly gorgeous wooded site. Stunning weather and amazing performances from the cream of electronic music. I was blown away by sets from Sasha, Aphex Twin and Richie Hawtin and didn't hear a duff tune all weekend. As the organizers said themselves: A Belter!
Dominic Armitage, London

We still the best festivals in the world but they're all starting to seem the same.. Reading got diluted by a large corporate sponsor and became The Carling Weekend (gag!) and split to Leeds (and lost the real rock element in the process) and V seems to pedestrian now. Bring back Phoenix!!!
Tim Carpenter, Bracknell, Berkshire

'Chillin' out, maxin' relaxing all cool'- the Big Chill, at Eastnor Castle in Hereforeshire didn't include any stress at all. The music was fabulous- mostly unheard of, an eclectic mix, but all with the same relaxed vibe. The Big Chill was one of the most civilised & family friendly festivals i have ever been to. Roll on next summer, this little known festival is a gem to be discovered!
Katriona, Edinburgh

Went to V festival in Staffs, atmosphere was amazing, bands were great, and we found the organisation perfect. Would love to repeat the experience when i can get the money together!!!
Nicky, Devon, England

Beautiful Days just rocked! The Levellers put on another great festival of sunshine and easy-going happiness. All the old crowd were there; kids in wheelbarrows, stinky toilets, naked fairy glitter-wrestlers. But there was no trouble, no fights, no drugs and this year, no mud. Chilled out and just oh-so friendly. Take your mates and have some fun.
Sandy Smith, Reading, Berks

Just back from V in Chelmsford. I love festivals but this was the worst I've ever been to. Festivals for me mean great music, relaxation, fresh air and plenty of good natured people enjoying themselves. All we seemed to do this year was queue. We got caught in a crowd of hundreds trying to get through gates into the arena, from the campsite. One and a half hours (two acts) later we made it through the tiny gate. People were pushing and shoving and becoming increasingly impatient. It could have turned nasty. V staff were oblivious. The "Crowd control" staff employed there have no clue about safety or crowd control. I would imagine the organisers are legally required to employ a number of staff per number of festival-goers, regardless of what experience they have. The cheaper the better. I'll be heading elsewhere next year, as I'd imagine they'll try packing more and more in to Chelmsford. But hey, that's OK as long as they increase the number of crowd control staff they have there. Isn't it?
Emma, Kent

I had been put off festivals in the past due to over comercialism and overcrowding but I went to the aptly named Beautiful Days Festival in Devon this weekend which was out of this world. Brilliant time had by all. Well Done and Thank you Levellers!!
Joy , Wales

Ashton Court 2005, This festival is a hidden little gem, what an outstanding place to have a festival, overlooking the beautiful city of Bristol. Lemon Jelly performed what i think was one of the best closing sets of the summer, pure brilliance! And only £5, bargain!
Adam Dobson, Bristol, England

Me and 'im indoors went to V festival, Chelmsford. I was a festival virgin at 31 years old but have definitely caught the bug!
Sara, Watford, Herts

I went to Embrace at the Eden Sessions in Cornwall – amazing atmosphere and stunning setting!! The whole event just blew me away!!
Jess, Cornwall

Went to V2005 in Stafford. Prodigy were the highlight for me, absolutely stunning!!
Andy Boote, Dudley, West Mids

I went to V at Weston Park and it was awesome!! But what happened with the TV coverage, why only show Chelmsford, It was if there was only one site!
Kim, West Midlands

Went to FIB in Spain this year. Was brilliant, 9 days of camping with 5 days of music ending in a massive beach party. Weather was amazing too. Highlights had to be Underworld and the Optimo Djs at the Fibstart and Kasabian who stole the show from Oasis after headlining on the last night. Bring on next year!
Mike Jones, Glasgow

Just got back from the V festival at Stafford, been 6 times now and this was the best yet for bands – Prodigy, Kaiser Chiefs, The Music, Doves and The Bravery were fantastic. However, organisation-wise absolutely rubbish, we set off at 7.30am this morning and finally got off the car park at 11.00 – 'Traffic Marshalls' stood around drinking coffee and texting mates rather than sorting out the shoddy mess of getting cars away from the site.
Angela, Wigan, Lancashire

DWS 2005 – Awesome atmosphere, friendly people, great weather and a smashing party with free beer. Doesn't get much better.
Joe Gooding, Ipswich

For the first time this year I swopped the british festival scene for the Spanish. It will go down as one of the best decisions I have ever made!The five days of the FiberFib 2005 Festival in Benicassim rocked harder than I ever imagined. Every Band were more completely comitted to there performances and I left Spain with a knowledge that i had witnessed a massively special event
Dan Ball, Muswell Hill, UK

I went to the Truck festival this year. A huge range of music from thrash through to acoustic. SixTh, Biffy Clyro, The Magic Numbers, the Electric Soft Parade and Goldrush were the highlights.
Johnskibeat, Cambridge

I went to V Festival in Chelmsford and although the bands were excellent, the organisation of some of it was TERRIBLE. The toilet facilities were rubbish, with there only being 3 blocks of toilets in the arena with 1/2 hour queues. Also the drinks tokens were pointless, because everywhere I went, I could have paid cash. Despite the poor facilities I had a good time watching the bands, Oasis were excellent.
Amanda, Horsham, England

V Festival – Oasis were fantastic, food was excellent, V Fest staff were excellent, festival goers were nice… All in all, a blinding weekend was had :-) )
Gayle, Essex

I went to FIB this year near Valencia in Spain, there were about 15000 people and about half of them were British. Many of the people I met there say it was better than Glastonbury, I've never been so I can't draw comparison. Some of the bands there were Athlete, Keane, Kaiser Chiefs, Oasis, Kasabian, Chk Chk Chk, LCD Soundsystem and The Polyphonic Spree. It's needless to say I will be going next year, hopefully this post won't spoil my little secret.
Andrew Bunrip, UK

Great weekend – highlights being Faithless, Travis, Embrace and Snow Patrol. Been to Glastonbury and many other festivals in the past but there was something about Isle of Wight, maybe the smaller scale, that gave it a great atmosphere. Will definitely be back next year!!!
C,

Download Festival was an absolutely fantastic experience! Velvet Revolver were truly ace. It was great to see Slash tearing around on a giant open air stage once again. I usually go to Reading, but the line-up there this year is abysmal!
Matt H, High Wycombe, UK

Just got home after the most awesome weekend at the Isle of Wight festival! Was blown away by REM last night and remembered how much I like Travis, Idlewild and Starsailor after their great performances. Brilliant music, weather and company – thanks IOW, see you next year!
Carys, Cardiff

Download 2005: Great festival… excellent performances from System of a Down and Black Sabbath. Great to see Ozzy Osborne giving it all, rocking with every inch of his mate. The atmosphere for System Of A Down was amazing, and the set was powerful and energetic. Great weather too and no problems. Now where's my tent?
Darren Devonport, Rainhill, Merseyside

I've just come back from the Download festival and it was amazing. I've been to all the previous Downloads and this was defiantly the best so far. The Friday line up was a bit poor tho, with MegaDeath pulling by far the biggest crowd even tho they were fourth on the bill. The Saturday soon got things back on track with some good old school names like Black Sabbath and Anthrax on the main stage along with familiar faces under new names in Velvet Revolver and Alter Bridge supporting them. Also some good up and coming bands such as In Flames and Chimaira on the second stage. Sunday was and even greater mix and stronger line up System of a Down, Slipknot, Slayer and Killswitch Engage did indeed kill it on the main stage. While Mastodon and Caliban gave the more hardcore fans something to dance to on the second. Which was Headlined by the mighty Motorhead, who left everyone happy and deaf. Definitely the best Download yet and one that knocks lumps out of the Carling weekend. See you there next year!! Rock on!
Nick Benning, Milton Keynes

I went to Isle of Wight – Razorlight were definitely the best – I also loved snow patrol.
Maria, London, England

Went to the Isle of Wight festival this year, was a brilliant line-up, and a great atmosphere which was enjoyed by all of us who went.
Alison Clowes, Oldham, UK

I went to the Oxegen festival this year and it was fantastic. Pretty random mixture of music, spanning from the Killer and Kasabian, to Snoop Dogg and The Saw Doctors. It was brilliant Craic and the weather was fab!
Lela Keighley, Manchester, England

Went to the Rock and Blues Festival Pentrich Derbyshire. Absolutely brilliant! Australian Pink Floyd, The Damned, Thunder, Frank Marino and Rush Mahogany were my favourites. Well done the Outlaws for putting on such a good weekend. Only downside was the wet weather and the mud – but the atmosphere was brilliant!
Cath, Wirral, England

Went to Summer Sundae festi in Leicester – the cleanest, most chilled out festi I have ever been to with some quality bands – brilliant!
Sophie, Farnborough, Hants

I went to three festivals this year – Castell Rock in Aberystwyth, Sesiwn Fawr in Dolgellau and Fairport's Cropredy Convention in Cropredy. All of them were excellent. Musical highlights included the acoustic stage at Sesiwn Fawr (Gwyneth Glyn, Alun Tan Lan and Paul Dooley) the Poppies and Winabego at Castell Rock and The Ukelele Orchestra of Great Britain's versions of Wuthering Heights and Miss Dynamitee at Cropredy. Many of these are available on MP3 download sites if you missed these hidden gems of the festival circuit.
catrin, Aberystwyth, Wales

Went to T in the Park. That was my 5th time and it didnt let me down. For a kick off the weather was scorching all weekend The line up was fantastic, it was a great balance of up-and-coming (Magic Numbers) and well established artists (Green Day etc). Some folks have complained that it is starting to become too commercial , i dont agree. Put it this way if you want to see groups such as the Magic Numbers, Green Day, the Kaiser Chiefs, you have to allow to an extent the sponsors and companies in. TITP for me just gets better and better.
Mike , Falkirk

You can't beat Truck Festival as far as I'm concerned. As independent and free-spirited as you can get, comfortably intimate yet packed to the gills with a great mix of rewarding musical surprises and established favourites.
Alun Hughes, Aberdeen, Scotland

Cropredy 2005: I thought I'd go along to this, having failed for various reasons over the past four years. I only went for the Saturday though, my back is injured and would've made tenting it into a chairopractor's payday. Anyway, it was a wet Saturday afternoon but that didn't stop the legions of folk fans trooping into the field in North Oxfordshire. Beards, strange hats, brightly coloured trousers, it was all there in abundance. If you want to see the "Characters", go to a folk festival! The beer was also good. They brew their own ale especially for the festival and it's well worth a sup. So, onto the bands; They tended to have long sets. By which I mean full length sets for each act; none of your "30 minutes and then we pull the plug" nonsense, every artist got to play a while. So, here's who I saw: Uiscedwr Pleasant sounding little band with gaelic influences (or more likely, roots.) Made very good "Background" to drink to, and that's meant as a compliment rather than an insult. The Hamsters Solid if unspectacular folk rock. Finished with a cover of "Sharp Dressed Man" which at least got people moving. Beth Nielsen Chapman Eclectic singer / songwriter, covered a lot of ground musically, going from The accustomed Ballads to a Latin Hymn (Really!) and through a few bluesy / jazzy numbers. Perfect type of thing for a f0lk festival. Fairport Convention Fairport are the rulers of f0lk rock and proved it with a three and a half hour set of classics and new stuff, about eight guest musicians and dancers including Richard Thompson and Maartin Alcock. (Sadly no Dave Swarbrick, who I'd imagine is still recovering from having a new heart and lungs put in.) For those who are into set lists, I'm not even going to attempt to post it all; it was about forty songs! Highlights included the obligatory Matty Groves, Meet on the Ledge and Si Tu Dois Partir. I was pleased to hear Red and Gold, Wat Tyler and Genesis Hall. The Widow of Westmorland's daughter was an unexpected and pleasant surprise as was Walk Awhile and the new material stands up to the classic stuff well; Chris Leslie is a fine songwriter and a bloody good fiddler; his double fiddle duets with Ric Sanders were amazing. If you're into f0lk, get along to Cropredy next year. If it's half as good as this gig, it'll be well worth it
Duncan Saunders, Uffington, UK

Went to Download this year and it was brilliant. The bands were great (especially Velvet Revolver, Black Sabbath and Slipknot) and it had a brilliant atmosphere. Only problem was this is the first festival ive been too and trying to work out what all this stuff about drink tokens was all about wasnt fun and they kept trying to give me a pint of Carling before I'd even said what I wanted.
Kieran Dryden, Edinburgh

Last weekend we were treated to the 1st all-acoustic show from Pixies as well as a brilliant set from Elvis Costello & the Imposters as both headlined this year's Newport Folk Festival. Amazing shows from both acts on scenic Narragansett Bay. Hope they're invited back in the near future.
tim towey, newport,rhode island usa

We spent the weekend at V in Chelmsford and enjoyed some very good acts. I would suggest they change the name of the festival from V Festival to 'Q' Festival, as we Queued for everything. Went to Oxegen in Punchestown and was well impressed… highlights would have to be Keane, the Killers and the Prodigy, not to mention the perfect weather, the half-pipe and of course all the gorgeous Irish lasses!!
daniel, london

I decided against a summer holiday this summer, so I decided instead to see what festivals I could get tickets for. I'm lucky enough to have been to Isle of Wight, Glastonbury, T in The Park and V (Staffs) so far. All have been great so far, and have their own unique features, but Glastonbury is still the original and best, despite the dampness! Kasabian at Glasto and Chemical Brothers at V are the 2 most memorable performances of the summer for me. Unfortunately, the Isle of Wight and V Festivals were let down by stingy organisers not allowing you to take your own food and drink in, and then charging obscene prices once inside. Apart from that minor gripe, it was a fantastic way to spend a summer!
Batesy, Newcastle Upon Tyne

SZIGET festival in Hungary! What a week! I saw Korn (ok not super but still huge), Ska-P, Buena Vista Social Club, Brand New Heavies, Morcheeba, franz Ferdinand, The Hives, Good Charlotte, basement jaxx, Underworld and loads of other known bands and all of them rocked! I was mightily impressed by prices, and the superb attitude taken by all the attendees who pick you up during pogos and body-surfing… I would seriously recommend brits to go: we're still few and far between over there and the hungarian women are absolutely gorgeous. What more could you ask? This is the most multi-culti festival I've ever been to. Go. Next year.
Mo, Bedford

I did V in Stafford this weekend. Luckily I get VIP which gives you access to an area away from the river of rubbish – which there is no need for, terrible toilets, massive queues, and the constant feeling that it might kick off. V needs to be a lot better organised. You can get right into the festival site without a ticket which just encourages people to turn up and try their luck – and if they don't get in they sit outside the wall – listen to the music, get trashed and then loot tents. This is obviously a massive generalisation but it's corporate enough to be a lot better done. I know I sound miserable – but I actually had an amazing weekend – Roisin Murphy was fantastic.
Fay, Manchester

Went to the Beautiful Days Festival last weekend and it was excellent. A great atmos, loads of awesome music, inc. punk, reggae, ska, folk and rock, plus some really excellent crossover acts. You can keep your comercial leviathons like V, Reading, and even Glastonbury in the last few years – the Beautiful Days is where I wanna be!
Rich, Cardiff, UK

This year was my first time at V Festival and it will be my last. It was by far the worst organised festival (or event for that matter) that I have ever been to. Queues to get in meant that much of the morning was missed (gates were only opened 1/2 an hour before the show started) and drinking water was confiscated before you entered so you had to buy it from Volvic (one of the main sponsors) at inflated prices. Getting off the site in the evening was incredibly dangerous, there was no stewarding (there was no stewarding throughout the entire festival that I saw) and thousands of people were herded across a very narrow bridge and then a very narrow path in pitch black (all the lights were turned off at about 11.15pm). A really terrible event.
Andy, Chelmsford

Went to Wakestock in N.Wales it was fantastic. Great bands and DJs and stunning scenery. the best festival in wales by a distance!
Matt, London

I was at the Reading festival this weekend, and have to say that it was so much fun, I wouldn't hesitate going again. There was a fairly varied selection of bands, from Goldie Looking Chain to the Pixies, The Charlatans to Iron Maiden. The highlights for me were Kasabian and Iggy & the Stooges, both of which were outstanding. It definitely seemed to us to be better organised than previous years, the queues were long but moved very quickly, and the toilets were (for the most part) clean!! I know loads of people moan about prices, mud, toilets, queues, etc – but at the end of the day, it's a weekend festival – chill out, kick back with a beer and enjoy the good music!
Tanya, Leicestershire, UK

Went to Leeds this weekend and was blown away. I got to see my favourite band in the whole world, The Pixies. Never thought I'd ever see them live, so it was a wonderful experience. Other highlights were The Killers, Razorlight and Bad Religion. Even got to see Ed Byrne in the comedy tent. A great weekend all round.
Kelley Henn, Manchester, UK

Leeds Festival was a good one this year, the bands were fantastic and the atmosphere great. However the report of how security and staff handled the trouble and fires started is absolute rubbish. I was surrounded by exploding fires, tents and trees and i didn't see ONE member of staff except the fire crew attend any of them. We even gave a deodorant can to a security guard so people wouldn't put it on a fire and he just stood there and said 'oh yeah, umm cheers'. I even noticed some of the staff CHEERING when canisters exploded. If you ask me it was handled poorly.
Beccy Burrow, Keighley, UK

Went to Leeds and thoroughly enjoyed it. Highlights were Iron Maiden, Funeral for a Friend, Turbonegro, The Killers, Kings of Leon and the Foo Fighers on the music front and Reginald D Hunter, Marcus Brigstock, Ed Byrne and Mitch Benn on the comedy front. Looking forward to see who Mean Fiddler line up for next year. Was pretty well organised – some of the stewards could have been friendlier – with some being downright rude when you walked the wrong way! Erm Mean Fiddler – signage helps if you want people to be directed!! Other than that was reet good weekend!
Mark Skeet, Leeds, UK

I went to V in Staffs. It was a fantastic weekend with some brilliant acts – my highlight being the Kaiser Chiefs. The queues to get onto the campsite were ridiculous when we arrived, as were the queues for the wristbands we needed. 3 tables putting bands on thousands of poeople (makes sense?). Apart from the queues and the ridiculous prices of food and drink, I had a brilliant time and was quite suprised that the toilets were kept relatively clean. Sounds like Weston Park was a lot more organised and successful than Chelmsford – but then again, that's probably because we're northerners!
Katie Rimmer, Cheshire

I've just got back from Leeds. My back aches, my throat hurts, I feel like I am wearing someone else's legs and I didn't know underwear could possibly retain that much dried grass and mud. Remarkably, I only seem to smell faintly of dried beer and I am thankful that when I got punched in the face by one of the Neanderthals, who started brawling behind me, it was just two minutes before the Foo Fighters ignighted the stage, the evening and for me, my entire weekend. Only that performance could make me forget any level of pain or discomfort I was experiencing. I expected to be trodden on, pushed, elbowed in the ribs and have flying men drop on my head (that's all part of the fun). I didn't expect to be thumped. However, that small pocket of rage was the only one I witnessed during an otherwise fantastic event. There were calls to rally for the festival to become a four-dayer and I would definitely be behind that one!
Mel, Sheffield, UK

I went to FiB in Spain with a group of 20 odd mates and had the time of my life. I've given up completely on UK festivals and the recurring gamble with the weather. FiB gave us 9 days of camping on a clean campsite, with shower blocks, toilets and running hot water, AND 5 days of the best music I could want! The sun was blazing hot for the whole 2 weeks we were out there and the beach was gorgeous.
Ady Crymble, Manchester

Reading Festival? Should be called War Zone for teenagers. Got to be the worst festival I have ever been too. Camp sites are appaling. Not to mention pepole peeing up your tent, having sex next to your tent, throwing up everywhere and burning everything they can get their hands on. Very poor facilities and full of teenagers that have just got their first taste of freedom. If you are over 25 its like watching a field full of kids Glastonbury for me anytime!
Deborah Rowlands, Sheffield UK

Solfest in Cumbria, a great example of a festival for the people. With a diverse mixture of music and a mature family friendly audience. This has got to be one of the best kept secrets of the North. Glenn Tilbrook's set being one of the many highlights of the weekend. Shame about the gales but no rain.
Richard, Stockton

I was at V last weekend in Stafford. I was a great event, the variety of music was excellent as was the organisation of staff on site. I was suprised how safe and secure the atmosphere was and there seemed to be little of the theft or violence that may have been expected. Atmosphere in the arena was excellent and the bands – Oasis, Scissor Sisters, Kaiser Chiefs to name but a few all did fantastic sets. This year being the 10th anniversary of V, it certainly did itself proud with this year's effort! A*
Katharine Dent, Durham

We went to Summer Sonic in Tokyo this year and it rocked! The Japanese bands were very impressive, particularly Asian Kung Fu Generation. Oasis rocked, Weezer sucked and the highlight of it all was Kasabian. Never heard their music before seeing them live but they did it for us! Back again next year for sure! Thanks S.S.
Jason Evans, Tokyo, Japan

I lost my festival virginity by going with my sister to Leeds this year. Saw over 30 bands, including some brilliant up and coming acts such as Arcade Fire, as well as headliners like the Foo Fighters. The toilets were awful, but then I have been told that the toilets have a reputation as being the worst on the festival circuit, and the organisation seemed a bit lacking in places. Queueing for over 2 hours to get in and missing the first few acts, and then cashpoint queues for up to three hours? Something's not right there. All in all though, that wasn't enough to ruin our weekend, and we left with smiles on our faces and knowing we'd had a great time. Will definitely go back.
Rachel, Peterborough, UK

Rock is officially dead! Just come back from the Reading Festival where I was – mistakenly – lucky to stay in the guest camping area. Turns out that when rock stars aren't preaching on stage they are signing autographs for Harry's and Henrietta's from Hertfordshire… I will never go to another festival again. Absolute rip-off, bands all sound the same, and full of 'rock' losers ie. Goths.
Chris Hallahan, London & Berks

I went to Reading this year for the first time after previously going to V (both sites) and Leeds. I have to say it was by far and away the best festival I've ever been to- the line up was fab and the organisation and atmosphere was great. I went to Leeds last year and the atmosphere on the campsite was horrible, people weren't talking to anyone outside their groups and it had a nasty feel. This year, I met what felt like hundreds of random people and had a great laugh!Highlights of the weekend were the Foos (of course), Razorlight and GLC- and also Maximo Park, who should have been on the main stage! Reading organisers take note, these guys are going to be huge!!
Nic, Luton, UK

Went to V in Stafford on the Sunday. Great day, not too hectic and good atomosphere. Shame the camera's didn't appear as they did for Chelmsford, Kaiser Chiefs and Chemical Brothers certainly had it rocking and it would have been a good reprsentation of the V Festival as a whole to have coverage of both days in both venues. Looking forward to next year…
Rachael, Hampshire, England

Went to T and Leeds? this year. T was outstanding – great line-up, good organisation and brilliant atmosphere. Leeds had the line-up, but unfortunately there was a sizeable minority who wished to cause trouble. This was bad enough in itself, but the heavy-handed tactics of security were nothing short of disgraceful. In the absence of police, they had carte blanche to bully, intimidate and threaten anyone who happened to be in the vicinity. A review of this should be undertaken rapidly.
Rob, Newport, South Wales

Forget all the festivals this year, the place to be this was Creamfields! Faithless, Paul Van Dyk and Judge Jules were awesome. I can positivly say that Heeran, Rick and Graeme had the best time ever!
Heeran Rathod, Preston, Lancashire, UK

I went to Womad for the third time in a row this year. The music was varied and exciting, quite the best year of the three I have been to. However there was a problem with thefts which I have never before experience there. Hope it does not happen next year.
Morwenna Jordan, London

Having been to Reading in 1996 and loving it, I persuaded my boyfriend to come to Leeds this year to enjoy excellent music. I wish we hadn't bothered. Despite some amazing bands (Elbow being the undisputed highlight as far as getting close enough to a stage to actually hear music not distorted by wind is concerned)the whole weekend was punctuated by poor organisation, overcrowding, cynical over-pricing and the sense that everything could turn nasty at the drop of a hat. Sunday night's "minor disturbances" were more than an inconvenience; the behaviour of the groups involved in the alleged looting of vans (as one steward watching informed me), destruction of people's tents and illegal fires was threatening and genuinely distressing. I wonder when organisers and promoters are going to admit the failings of these over-hyped and highly cynical events. I would recommend any young music lover to go to small gigs where fans can see the stage and hear the music. But that's not going to happen while promoters prey on the pockets and inexperience of a demographic for whom staying out late is still a novelty. Not very rock and roll after all…
lou, london

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Nursing China’s superstitions

New mums should stay indoors, eat purple porridge and avoid drinking iced water. Or should they? Scratch below the surface in modern China and you will find that old superstitions remain very much in force, as Louisa Lim has found out since having a baby.

I had nine months to prepare, but when I was presented with a tiny squalling bundle of scrawny arms and legs, it was still a shock.

My waters had broken a month before my due date. I hadn't even gone on maternity leave.

I was expecting to be at work, filing reports from our hot little studio.

Instead I found myself in labour, yelling like a banshee while fending off calls from the BBC news desk in London.

After several excruciating hours, our baby finally arrived. He was small but perfect in every way.

Traditionally the arrival of a grandson who will carry on the family name is a momentous event in any Chinese clan. And so it was with my in-laws.

They adored the baby and spent hours cooing as he gurned and kicked.

As time went on, however, I noticed a strange thing.

As I am half-English, we had given our son both English and Chinese names: Daniel and Feng Yue, which means Moon.

But no one seemed to be using his given names.

Instead, my Chinese husband always called him the "stinky little pig".

And my father-in-law would stare tenderly at the baby, but mutter things like "dog fart".

Perplexed, I asked some Chinese friends what was going on.

"They're trying to fool the evil spirits," I was told. "They don't want the evil spirits to kidnap Feng Yue, so they are pretending he's just a stinky little pig or a dog fart."

Month in pyjamas

I had been expecting a tiny imperious master who would rule my life with his demands.

Actually we were blessed with a peaceful little being who spent his first few weeks of life fast asleep.

But my days were ruled by another addition to the household: my maternity nurse, Dong Ayi.

She had been recommended by a Chinese friend, who had got through two other nurses during her first two days at home.

If Dong Ayi had managed to co-exist with her, I figured, she would be able to cope with me. But I had not reckoned on the cultural differences.

Dong Ayi was already waiting for us when we got home.

A small, compact woman, the first thing she did when we arrived was change into her pyjamas.

That is because in China, new mothers are not expected to leave their beds for a month after giving birth.

Both I and Dong Ayi were expected to spend the entire month pyjama-clad.

Prisoner to tradition

I had already warned Dong Ayi that I would not be "sitting the month" as they say in Chinese. But I soon discovered that besides not going outside, a host of other activities were also forbidden.

These included those most ordinary of acts: taking a shower, washing your hair, drinking cold water, opening the window, watching television and even reading a book.

All are considered unhealthy after childbirth.

Most new mothers are too worried about the consequences to transgress.

For my part, I refused to be a prisoner to tradition and blithely ignored these taboos. And Dong Ayi did not exactly complain when I took a shower or opened the window or drank iced water.

She would just fix me with a baleful glare… a silent warning of the error of my ways.

In one area, however, she refused to compromise.

When she saw me walking around barefoot, she was horrified.

She kept warning of cold winds, which would enter my body through the soles of my feet, causing untold health problems.

At first I laughed off her concerns. Then as her laser stare followed my feet around the house, I started to feel aches in my heels and knees.

Finally she could bear it no longer and bought me a pair of soft black slippers.

Sensing defeat, I realised it would be easier just to wear them all the time, and miraculously the pains vanished.

Secret bananas

Food was another small battleground over which we skirmished.

The Chinese firmly believe that certain foods are beneficial after childbirth, particularly purple rice porridge with dates, pig trotter soup and black chicken broth.

On one memorable occasion, my in-laws even produced deep-fried pork-fat soup, which was surprisingly good.

The problem was that Dong Ayi firmly opposed my favourite foods: namely coffee, chocolate and bananas.

"Not for breastfeeding mothers," she said, banning them from my diet, "they're bad for Daniel's health."

I took the route of least resistance and meekly agreed, though I would visit friends' houses for clandestine coffee and secret bananas.

Found out

One day all this came to an end.

She was changing the baby's nappy and sniffing the air distractedly.

"This smells all wrong. He's got diarrhoea," she said. "You've been eating bananas, haven't you?"

I could only hang my head in shame and promise to stop.

Six months have now passed.

Thanks to my soup-filled diet, our stinky little pig is as chubby and bouncing as they come.

I am back at work, filing reports from the BBC's hot little studio. And Daniel is safe at home, still being looked after by Dong Ayi… still in her pyjamas.

From Our Own Correspondent was broadcast on Saturday, 3 December, 2005 at 1130 GMT on BBC Radio 4. Please check the programme schedules for World Service transmission times.

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1. Ruby Wax is studying for a degree in psychology and philosophy.

2. A single "mother" spud from southern Peru gave rise to all the varieties of potato eaten today, scientists have learned. More details

3. Spanish Flu, the epidemic that killed 50 million people in 1918/9, was known as French Flu in Spain

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5. Belarus has the highest ratio of police to people, of any country in the world.

6. Before Ronnie Barker revealed himself to be the Two Ronnies' mystery sketchwriter Gerald Wiley, some people thought the man behind the mask was Tom Stoppard. More details

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8. The gender of unborn turtles is affected by sea temperature. As seas warm up, there are more female turtles being born. More details

9. Britons take home 430,000 gallons (1.95m litres) of shampoo from hotels every year, a survey has found. More details

10. Author Andrea Levy, winner of the "Orange of Oranges" book prize for her novel Small Island, says she "didn't actually read a book" until she was 23.

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YOUR LETTERS FRIDAY 7 OCTOBER 1600 BST

The new Guinness ad (Ad Breakdown, 7 October) might not reflect the biblical version of creation, but its view of evolution is equally wide of the mark. Contrary to its images, we did not evolve from plesiosaurs (instead our ancestors around that time were small shrew-like animals). To an evolutionary biologist, the ad is as daft as a version of history where Germany wins both World Wars and the 1966 World Cup!
Dr Mike Goetz,
Southampton, UK

"Drink our beer and you'll turn into a caveman. Or possibly a bug." Possibly not the most enticing offer ever.
Steve,
Newcastle

Ketie Bell's letter complaining about tormenting cute little animals such as piglets (Monitor Letters, Thursday) is quite right.We should only be allowed to torment big ugly stinky ones.
John R,
London

This week's caption competition winner, Mia from Guildford's "I'm more of a Harriet Harman man myself…", is possibly the funniest answer to the caption comp ever. I'm just relieved that the days of William Waldegrave are over.
Joe,
UK

Re: Dave Taylor's comments about wiring a plug not being physics (Monitor Letters, Thursday). Get the wiring wrong and you'll soon discover a few laws of physics.
Colin Larcombe,
France

Wiring a plug is indeed on the GCSE physics syllabus. Who said education wasn't useful?
James Ball,
Oxford, UK

On Thursday, Edward Higgins of Plumstead proposed the word "Flexicon" (Monitor Letters, Thursday). This reminds me of the Nissan adverts where they would combine two words to make a new one such as "modtro" (modern and retro) and "spafe" (spontaneous yet safe). This enabled me to describe my Micra, which was shiny and bright.
Greg,
Croydon, UK

Soon everyone – even fauxhunters and hamateurs* – will need a flexicon to read these maglets. Where will it all end? [*hamateur - 1) a non-professional swimming pig with a tendency to over-act; 2) people who behave as such].
Curt Carpenter,
Dallas,Tx US

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FRIDAY OBJECTIVE 7 OCTOBER 1440 BST

The Friday Objective has been given compassionate leave.

It was a bit upset that the pictures you submitted to the Vettriano experiment were so good that whatever it came up with would look paltry, worthless or even contemptible. So it was excused duty until next week. (Note to self: Beware working with creatives.)

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PAPER MONITOR FRIDAY 7 OCTOBER 0930 BST

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If only Paper Monitor could offer free giveaway DVDs. Maybe a collection of all-time great 10 Things We Didn't Know, set to music by Ben Elton and Bjorn Ulvaeus.

This is not, of course, to suggest that Monitor readers would be shallow enough to come to this little corner of the internet just to pick up free goodies. We know you come to share the love. And yet the race among the papers to outdo each other with DVDs and CDs gets hotter every week.

Does it not worry newspaper executives that, despite everything their paper has to offer, what will make the difference is what film they give away?

So here's this weekend's rundown, to help you select your reading matter.

The Mirror: Free double CD, Pride of Britain, including tracks by Paul Weller, Jamie Cullum, The Animals and Tom Jones.
The Mail: Bob the Builder DVD
The Times: Cabaret DVD (the film, not the variety genre)
The Indie: DVD of Indochine
The Guardian: DVD of East is East
The FT- no DVD, but Saturday's is a special "billionaire" edition.
The Express – no mention of a DVD either, but there is a chance to win a camper van.

Finally a last word on the Tory party conference, a subject which has given Paper Monitor much pleasure all week. Today the papers report on Michael Howard's farewell speech. The Telegraph reports that he "said the party needed a leader who could understand young people's aspirations and connect with the 'internet and iPod' generation."

Some sort of USB cable would seem to be in order then?

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FRIDAY 7 OCTOBER 0911BST

In Thursday's Daily Mini-Quiz, we asked if the 'gator-eating python had lived or died. Two-thirds of you correctly answered that it perished, having eaten until it burst. Today's question is on the Magazine index now.

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YOUR LETTERS THURSDAY 6 OCTOBER 1550 BST

Re: the reports on the website this week about Britain's drug habit. I think the problem stems from the media with its unrealistic and over-inflated view of the perfect lifestyle. There are far too many images of the celebrity dressed to the nines and high as a kite. This doesn't exactly spell doom and disaster for the person who might otherwise be wary of taking drugs. In fact, drug-taking as portrayed through the media, comes across as the favourite leisure activity of a successful, good looking and cool person. Who wouldn't want a part of that?
Andrew,
Leeds

Re: How smart are you? – Physics. Does knowing how to wire a plug really count as physics?
Dave Taylor,
Leeds, UK

School meals do not cause obesity, eating too much does (Pupils 'healthier on school food', 5 October). I was brought up on reconstituted meat (spam and corned beef), and it did me no harm. Trying to make children eat foods a celeb chef likes will make them rush to the corner shop for sweets.
Stanley Feldman,
London

Cute little pigs forced to swim in animal sporting events (The Big Picture – see right)…not funny, not clever and you shouldn't be promoting it.
Ketie Bell,
Glasgow

Your article on Saturday night television is looking at the past through rose tinted glasses (Ronnies recall TV's golden age, 5 October). Saturday evening television in the late 70s/early 80s hadn't moved on much since the music hall days. It was packed full of middle-of-the-road variety shows. Sometimes there may have been a twist, like The Generation Game, but if anyone remembers Seaside Special and The Val Doonican Show they will question the "Golden Age of Television" tag.
R J Tysoe,
London, UK

Whoops! I actually blushed while reading the letter from Robin Withey criticising my spelling (Monitor letters, Wednesday). That's what comes from hurriedly writing a letter to the Monitor while your boss's back is turned.
David,
Maesteg, South Wales

What Jack Vettriano (DIY artwork, 6 October) has done is the pop equivalent of sampling. Although he has borrowed all the elements of his painting from other works, the end result is his own creation. Nice one Jack.
Ivor,
UK

If Monitor readers are going to continue coming up with new "fauxhunt" style words, it won't be long until we need a name for this catalogue of neologisms. Something which fully conveys the cunning combination of two words to make a new modern meaning. May I therefore please suggest the word "flexicon"?
Edward Higgins,
Plumstead

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CAPTION COMPETITION **UPDATED** FRIDAY 7 OCTOBER 1255BST

It's time for the caption competition.

This week, David Davis – one of the men vying to be Tory leader – meets supporters wearing "It's DD for me" T-shirts at the annual party conference in Blackpool. But what's being said?

6. Martin, Barrowford, England
"No – it's 'Double Diamond' – a beer… it's back in fashion… who are you again?"

5. S Smith, Buckingham
DD: "Never mind. I'm sure they'll make good dusters."

4. Barry Sherbourne, Devizes, UK
"I don't know who you are, mate, but we're advertising underwear."

3. Cameron Critchfield, Basingstoke
"Look at the eyes, not around the eyes, for the Love of God, look at the eyes!!"

2. Neil Franklin, Southampton
David instantly regretted the "lots of support" gag.

1. Mia, Guildford, England
"I'm more of a Harriet Harman man myself…"

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PAPER MONITOR 6 OCTOBER 1125BST

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Who would have guessed how important a 15-minute speech could be to one's career. The papers are casting doubt over the fortunes of leadership front-runner David Davis after his lacklustre appearance in front of the Tory faithful on Wednesday.

At the same time, they're hailing the performance of a young, unlikely outsider. Not David Cameron, but William Hague.

The former Tory leader, who stepped down after the party's 2001 hammering at the polls, earned 16 rounds of applause during his conference speech yesterday, as well as two standing ovations (one before, one after).

"Ironically, one man emerged last night as the real favourite who would beat the entire field," says Trevor Kavanagh in the Sun. "William Hague delivered a masterclass in public speaking and a shot in the arm to party morale."

Peter Oborne in the Daily Mail says the former leader provided "a brief and tantalising reminder… of his immense political talents".

The Daily Express includes Mr Hague in a list of runners as it asks readers to vote by phone or text.

While the Daily Mirror's Kevin Maguire writes "The next Tory leader might be the old one." He was "witty, sharp, intelligent and personable, which is more than can be said for Davis, Clarke, Cameron, Fox or Rifkind."

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THURSDAY 6 OCTOBER 0952BST

In Wednesday's Daily Mini-Quiz, we asked which name WASN'T a pseudonym used by Ronnie Barker. It was Leonard E Shaw, which 48% of you answered correctly. But 34% said that he didn't use Jack Goetz, and 18% gave the thumbs down to Jonathan Cobbald. Wrong! Today's question is on the Magazine index now.

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YOUR LETTERS 5 OCTOBER 1508BST

Listen, if I'd known there was going to be a physics test (How smart are you? – Physics, 4 October), I'd never have started with the English one. I swear, none of that was on the physics syllabus when I was at school. Of the four I got right, two were pure guess work.
Snoop, Barcelona, Spain

With the new guidelines from the Met Office (Punorama), will future days with lunar eclipses be reported as "mostly sunny"?
Kieran Boyle, Oxford, England

David, yes (Monitor letters, Tuesday), but I also find it extremely irksome to find people consistEntly spelling correspondEnce incorrectly.
Robin Withey, Knaresborough, North Yorkshire, UK

Am I alone in wanting to know what happened to the child (Picture power: Fire-escape drama, 30 September)? It's a pretty haunting image to leave us with, without telling us what happened next.
Kaylie, Runcorn, UK

How embarrassing to be laughed at because your name sounds like a vegetable (Monitor letters, Monday). I'm glad mine doesn't.
B Trute, Bedford, UK

Ann, we did resurrect that joke on campuses across the UK (Monitor letters, Tuesday). Only the older people at uni were aware of the OJ version, so we could wow our younger friends with the new one. Almost worked too.
Debbie, Leeds, UK

Come on, Eastenders, you're behind the game: Giant snake alert in Essex (4 October); Snapper warning issued to village (4 October); River 'croc' may be giant turtle (11 August).
Jel, Brussels

PUNORAMA ***UPDATED*** THURSDAY 6 OCTOBER 1218BST

It's time for Punorama, our pun-writing competition.

The rules are straightforward – we choose a story which has been in the news, and invite you to create an original punning headline for it.

This week, your puns please on the story that downbeat descriptions have been banned from weather forecasts by the Met Office. Thus instead of "localised storms", forecasters have been asked to say "dry for most", and "often cloudy" becomes "generally clear".

Echoing last week's linguistic innovation in the Monitor is Weather faux-cast by Smitty, Toronto, Canada.

Clearing for Whether forecast (Darren, Leicester) and Mist opportunity by Ben Moxon, Guildford, Surrey.

Mainly dry over Weather 'tis nobler… (Iain, London, UK) and Raining Datsuns, dogs (James, Cape Town, Brightest Africa).

The outlook's good for You for mist hum by Kip, Norwich UK. (Confused? He adds the postscript "euphemism".) And brightening for Met-aphwoar what a scorcher by Neil Franklin, Southampton, UK, and Meteo-wrong-ogy by Maggie, South London.

Isolated patches of Thunder and brighten-ing (Stuart, West Midlands), strengthening to a Topical Repression (Chris Field, US)

Mostly bright for Spinning in the Rain (Glenn J, UK), and The rain's disdained, it's mainly on the brain (John Russell, London).

And record highs expected for Storm in a Tweak-Up, by Catherine O, Maidenhead, UK.

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PAPER MONITOR WEDNESDAY 5 OCTOBER 0920 BST

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Another day, another party conference medley.

In a bit of Vettriano-inspired fun, the Sun analyses David Cameron's hand gestures ("the clutch", "the boxer", "the thumb") and finds some similarities with a certain public school-educated boy-ish party leader who went all the way to Number 10.

The Mail's Quentin Letts says after Ken Clarke and David Cameron's speeches yesterday, David Davis will have to "do a Freddie Flintoff today". Presumably before the all-night bender.

The Indie's Simon Carr is at least honest: "Overcoming my fear and dislike of young people, I have to say that David Cameron would make a fine deputy for Ken Clarke. And according to the symmetries that seem to govern politics these days, he could play Tony Blair to the older man's John Smith (let's not pursue the analogy, it doesn't end well)."

In the Times, Ann Treneman gives us this snippet: "We were told that there would be no copies of [David Cameron's] speech until afterwards because much of it would be impromptu. This made me snort, for the day before I had watched Dave practising to an empty hall."

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WEDNESDAY 5 OCTOBER

In Tuesday's Daily Mini-Quiz, 59% of you thought Kate Winslet was older than Parminder Nagra (the wonderful Neela in ER). Only 28% of you were correct in saying they were born on the same day, 5 October 1975. So happy birthday to both of them, and also to old friend of the Magazine, Nick Robinson, who is 42 today. Wednesday's question is on the index now.

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YOUR LETTERS 4 OCTOBER 1540BST

If Jack Vettriano based that "Singing Butler" painting on a book (Painter brushes off 'copy' claims, 3 October), then it's the book that we have to blame for it being the wrong way round… The guy should be holding his partner's right hand in his left, not the other way round! He gets it right in "Dance me to the end of love" though.
Andrew Frost,
Winchester, UK

Re: Tory 'Mod Con' rebranding mooted, 4 October. Doesn't Lord Bell realise that Modern Conservative Party will be shortened to MCP which of course also stands for Male Chauvinist Pig? This image is one that they might wish to avoid.
Don,
Fareham, UK

I think I should clarify that the 23% of us who said orange juice in Monday's Daily Mini-Quiz, were joking (Daily Mini-Quiz report).
Ian,
Cosenza, italy

The OJ Simpson Daily Mini-Quiz reminded me of the topical trial knock-knock joke going around at the time: Knock knock – who's there? – OJ – OJ who? – you're on the jury. Can't think why it wasn't resurrected for the Michael Jackson trial this year.
Ann, Stirling

Regarding the "DD" T-shirts worn in support of David Davis (Paper Monitor, Tuesday). Am I the only one who was imagining a lopsided Gordon Brown supporter at the Labour conference?
Gareth Edwards,
Stoke on Trent

Why does the Monitor consistantly fail to close the brackets used when parenthesising links to previous items in people's correspondance (eg the first two letters on 3 Oct)? And am I alone in finding this extremely irksome?
David,
Maesteg, South Wales

Last week in the Monitor, linguistic innovation gave us several new words: plogging, fauxhunt, and maglet. How about this: To bleckle – to blow weblog raspberries?
Jel,
Brussels

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PAPER MONITOR TUESDAY 4 OCTOBER 0945 BST

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Much amusement in the papers today about the discovery of photographs on which celebrated artist Jack Vettriano apparently based some of his best-known paintings.

But that's as nothing compared to the tizzy about T-shirts worn by a couple of young ladies at the Conservative Party conference, faithfully reported by Telegraph, Times, Guardian and Independent (but not, for some reason, the tabloids).

"It's DD for me," the slogan across the women's T-shirts say, indicating their backing for David Davis. Yes, it's the Holy Grail for serious political coverage – a cast-iron excuse for photographs of breasts.

The Telegraph has the most in-depth coverage. The woman in question, it reveals, is Zoe Aylward, a corporate tax lawyer from London. "The T-shirts were my idea. This way, people won't have to keep asking who I'm supporting." That must be tricky, people asking all the time, and a great excuse for a "support" joke. Her pal Fay Jones clarifies matters: "[I]f blokes are going to look at your boobs, they might as well learn something in the process."

Everyone is now much the wiser.

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TUESDAY 4 OCTOBER 0930 BST

In Monday's Daily Mini-Quiz, 54% of you correctly identified that the OJ in OJ Simpson stands for Orenthal James. 23% of you thought it stood for Orange Juice. Tuesday's question is on the index now.

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YOUR LETTERS 3 OCTOBER 1640BST

As a Granny with 70+ years of speech on which to draw in times of need, I thank you for these additions to my store (Blogging v Dogging, 28 September. Are these examples of our daily speech to be used when chatting to grandchilden, their parents, or contemporaries? None of the selection has yet been used in my hearing, by anyone. I shall keep the list beside the phone for reference.
Clemency Reade,
Beaminster England

Re Michael Rooseboom's comments about flight attendants (Monitor Letters, Thursday. Perhaps he's unaware that training involves far more than how to pour coffee? Flight attendants are trained in first aid, identifying threats, dealing with unruly passengers and, by no means least, getting everybody off a plane in 90 seconds. Should Mr Rooseboom be unlucky enough to be involved in an evacuation, he'll be grateful for the knowledge and expertise of the "trolley dollies".
Lena Williams,
Manchester, UK

Re: Paper Monitor, Friday. Why is it any surprise that politicians are phasing out verbs in their sentences? A verb is a "word to express an action".
Parminder,
Leeds, UK

Is no one else at all worried about all this talk of banning soft drinks in schools? Wouldn't fat kids be better than alcoholics?
Andrew Fermor,
Bristol

Re: Abramovich's money in Faces of the Week in which you say: "If you can't picture that, try this. Laid out end to end in dollar bills, this week's treasure chest would stretch to the moon and back – twice." Thanks, I was struggling with the concept of a million pounds but that has cleared it up for me. It might also help if you told us the area covered by that number of dollar bills in relation to the size of Wales.
Andy M,
Oxford, UK

Before reading the story, I thought perhaps one of your headline stories was advertising a really bad Enid Blyton novel: Five face deportation after raids, 3 October.
Dave,
Cambridge, UK

Personally I'm very relieved that the new Wallace & Grommit has no mention of condoms or safe sex or unwanted pregnancies.
Christina,
Bath

A few weeks ago we had a letter from Judy Cabbages. Last week we had Ian Onions. Could either contributor bearing these names trace their roots to each other?
Tim McMahon,
Pennar/Wales

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PAPER MONITOR 3 OCTOBER 1030BST

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The Guardian reports on a study which finds that 200 films have no mention of condoms or safe sex or unwanted pregnancies. Film critic Peter Bradshaw writes: "It can hardly be news to any cinema-goer that the moves are failing to represent sex and drugs responsibly. Condoms aren't shown and characters are moreover not depicted suffering the general consequences of unprotected sex. They can also smoke without getting cancer, eat and drink without needing to go to the lavatory and have exciting car chases without ever accidentally running someone over."

Paper Monitor can see it now, a new wave of cinema-verite in which James Bond discovers that his poison-tipped rocket-propelled ballpoint pen has leaked ink all over his Jermyn St shirt, distracting him while his arch-enemy's henchmen grab him and tie him down to a circular saw, which for some reason they can't get to start, after which they use an internal phone to call the engineer but get his voicemail as he's on holiday until the 23rd.

Meanwhile the Mirror has an article about today's partial solar eclipse. Headline and story do not work in perfect harmony here. Headline: "Look up between 8.48am and 11.18am today to see the moon take bite out of the sun." Story: On no account look up to see the solar eclipse.

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MONDAY 3 OCTOBER

Friday's Daily Mini-Quiz asked which other female popstar is the same age as Kate Bush (who, incidentally, is making a comeback). The answer is Madonna – one which 38% of you guessed correctly. Both songstresses are 47 years old. Today's Daily Mini-Quiz is on the Magazine index.

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BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Over 230 dead in China gas blast

The death toll from a gas well blow-out in south-west China has risen to 233, the state news agency Xinhua reports.

Local officials said the new victims were discovered in mountain villages outside the city of Chongqing.

More than 9,000 people were taken to hospital and more than 4,000 evacuated following Tuesday's explosion.

Now that the well has been blocked, an investigation has been launched which will decide if the PetroChina energy company is responsible.

Engineers on Saturday pumped 480 cubic metres of concrete into the well to seal it.

Concerns

Medical workers have disinfected eight villages close to the site of the leak and removed almost 4,000 animal carcasses which covered the area.

Concerns have been raised that local drinking water supplies and soil could be contaminated.

But Xinhua reports that many residents are now being allowed back to their homes after their villages were confirmed safe.

Only those whose houses lie within a five-kilometre (three-mile) radius of the leak are not allowed to return.

"I want to clean up my house and count my losses because we can't smell the fumes now," one farmer told Xinhua.

China's Ministry of Civil Affairs has sent more than 10,000 quilts and 300 tons of food and medicine to the area.

'Zone of death'

This was China's worst industrial accident – described by Chinese media as a "zone of death".

Many of the confirmed dead are children or elderly people who were unable to flee after the explosion.

A local newspaper in Chongqing described peasants racing to get away after catching "a whiff of the smell of stinky duck eggs" – deadly sulphurated hydrogen.

Those who did not escape in time – including farm animals and fish – suffered burns to their skin and lungs from the gas.

A woman who lived within sight of the well described grabbing her five-year-old daughter and fleeing.

"But by the time they reached safety, the girl had stopped breathing," the Chongqing Economic Times reported.

The same paper reported that a local merchant had saved 400 people by making 20 trips in his lorry to take people to safety.

China is notorious for dangerous working conditions at industrial plants.

An average of more than 10,000 people a month died in work-related accidents from January to September this year.

That figure is a 9% rise from the same period last year – despite a government campaign to improve work safety conditions.

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Should the legal smoking age be raised?

Four out of five people want the legal age of smoking raised from 16 to 18, to deter youngsters from taking up the habit, a new report has found.

The IMC report, commissioned as part of BBC News' Healthy Britons poll, questioned over 1000 adults on a range of public health issues.

Of those questioned, 93% supported increasing and enforcing the penalties for selling tobacco to children and two-thirds said parents who consistently allow under-age children to smoke should face prosecution.

Over half thought smoking should be more expensive and three quarters wanted to increase anti-smoking campaigns.

A slight majority thought the age limit should be raised to 21.

What do you think of the findings? Should the legal age of smoking be raised? Do you think the government should try to change people's attitudes or is it a private matter?

This debate has now closed. Thank you for your comments.

Your comments:

I am a smoker who is trying to cut down, however, I really dislike the habbit and feel that smoking should be banned in all public areas. The age limit should be put up to at least 18, but what about the 16/17 year olds that are already hooked? I was at that age and im 28 now!
Jon Shearing, Bristol, England

When are we going to grow up? People will smoke what they want and at any age they want, whether it be six or sixty. Banning smoking would only make things harder for everyone, as then smoking would go underground. People have to want to stop and no-one can do a thing about it if they don't. Frankley I don't see the point of dropping or raising the age of smoking.
D.White, Nottinghamshire

Several people say that alcohol is worse then tobacco. To them I have two questions. If I choose not to drink alcohol and someone sits next to me with a pint of beer, do I passively drink? If I choose not to smoke and someone sits next to me with a cigarette, do I passively smoke?
Steve, Hampshire

Simple answer to that is kids always follow the norm. It is of course part of the UKs culture, that people will rather have a fag to get rid of their boredom instead of making the effort to do an activity that does not cost them their lives and money! Kids follow what grown ups do! Unless we make more of an effort to correct our mistakes we can't blame the kids or stop them from smoking.
Elsa, Manchester

I'm a 28 year old smoker and have been smoking for 16 years. I think the age should be raised to 18, the younger you are the more imressionable you are, raise the age!
Michelle Jeffray, Tiverton, Devon

Why? Do you really think it would make a difference? Kids at 10 and 12 are already smoking, if they can get hold of them now, adding another 2 years on the legal age is not going to change anything. It's the same with drink, you see them wandering the streets at 14 with cans of beer. The police do hardly anything apart from pour it away, do you really think they've got time to stop kids smoking when violent crimes and robberies are on the increase?
Craig, Preston, UK

I do not smoke but neither do I have a problem with others who do so. Like many others, though, I have a real problem with drinkers. Why is smoking always targeted but drinking never is? There are too many town centres in this country that are effectively out of bounds at weekends because of alcohol. They don't terrorise people because they've had a few cigarettes – they do it because they are fuelled on alcohol. Legislation on this should go hand-in-hand with legislation against alcohol. Increase the legal age to 21 for both, and tax both to the hilt, passing the proceeds to the NHS.
Sally, England,

Just ban it altogether – I am a smoker, but am amused that people think we would continue to buy cigarettes illegally just to feed our addiction. I don't want to be a smoker, and I especially don't want to have to buy the filthy things in back streets! All I need is a good kick up the backside and banning the infernal things would do just that!
AML, UK

Since almost every single smoker (myself included) becomes a nicoteine addict before they are 17, I'd say this is way overdue.
Ian, Brit in USA

The filth pumped out by diesel buses in our cities causes far more inconvenience to me than somebody having a fag in the street.
Chris, Rugby UK

Yes, the age should definitely be raised to 18. Almost everyone who smokes started at or before the age of sixteen and raising the age limit would allow them to make that decision at a more mature age. The irony is that kids start smoking so they can be like adults, but the only adults who smoke are the ones still hooked from when they were kids. Raise the age limit and they'll be very few smokers left in years to come.
Simon, West Sussex, UK

When will people realise that banning something has little overall effect? Drugs are banned, yet people still take them. Drink driving is banned, yet people still do it. And such will be the case with smoking. Yes, the age limit should be raised, and in conjunction the penalties for selling or supplying tobacco products to underage people should be much harsher. We can't blame kids for being sheep, but we can blame those who should know better from supplying them the tools to kill themselves slowly.
Luke Dawson, Horsham, UK

I think the money that will have to be spent to enforce the law would be better spent on education at a younger age (on the dangers of smoking).
Yosef, London

I have never even tried a cigarette and I am 27 years old, a lot of my friends smoked when we were younger but I never did. Why? Because I saw the consequences, I regularly had to visit my granddad in hospital from when I was about 10 years old spending Sunday afternoons in a stuffy hospital, it is terrible watching someone you care about smoke themselves to death and is something that will stay with me forever. To all those who think it is cool to smoke just think this before you next light up- seeing someone you love die from emphysema with gangrene which turns your legs black caused by smoking is pretty horrific and certainly not cool.
Sarah K, Upminster, Essex

You are either a smoker or a non-smoker. you are either for or against. I think people writing about banning it from public places, increasing the age limit etc are missing the point. We need to educate children from an early age (primary 7) that smoking is not cool. I started smoking at 13 ish, when I started secondary education as it was deemed "cool" – 17 years later I'm still smoking, albeit 4 or 5 a day but I'm still smoking. I will give up – but when? Who knows. Raising the age will not make a difference, there is always a shop that will sell to minors. I was getting them from the ice cream van – the same ice cream van that sells cigarettes to school kids on school ground at break time.
Yvonne, UK

If we are honest, fags and the lottery are the only way to tax the underclass, and getting them hooked young brings in the pennies and some of those dole cheques back home.
phillipellis, UK

I am a devout non-smoker, but even I can see the futility in raising the legal age. Does it work for any other age-limited activity? Of course not, it just makes the whole thing more taboo and exciting. Part of the thrill of underage drinking for me was getting served in the first place! The problem is, how do you stop it being perceived as an 'adult' thing to do without making it seem acceptable for children?
Anne-Marie, Stoke, UK

When you see the number of school aged kids, smoking on their way to school, and it is mainly girls, the age of ability to purchase should be raised to a minimum of 18. This should be part of a programme to eventually make the sale of tobacco from licensed premises only. People should only be allowed to purchase cigarettes by presenting the to, be issued national ID card. Smoking should be banned everywhere outside the private residencies.
Kevin, Bushey, UK

If kids are stupid enough to smoke, they will smoke regardless of the law. Just stop them doing it in public places such as restaurants and pubs please. Follow Ireland's excellent example.
Richard Bagnall, Cambridge, UK

Yes, raise it to 25. I hate to disillusion the cynics, but there are some of us out here who actually take some notice of the law. Just because some people will ignore whatever law we have, doesn't mean we should just give up. I waited till I was 16 before trying smoking, and if the limit was higher I would have waited longer. An increase in the legal age probably isn't a miracle cure-all solution, but smoking is so deeply engrained in society that nothing will work overnight. It's a small step that would do some good, so why not do it?
Chris, Bristol, UK

I think the legal smoking age should be raised to 18 years, because an 18yr old is less likely than a 16yr old to be pressured into smoking by their peers. Most 18yr olds have by then developed their own minds.
Miss Melanie Glegg, Bradford, West Yorkshire

There is a big emphasis on the government to make some effort to stop young people smoking, but there also has to be a bigger effort from shop keepers to school teachers to parents. The problem being with children is that if they want to smoke they will always find a way to get hold of cigarettes. Raising the age may sort this but it wont eradicate it. Stopping selling tobacco or raising the costs may help to, but in this type of situation it is a loose loose situation in that there is always going to be under age smokers
Kenneth Ferguson, Isle of Lewis, Scotland

Education must be the key to stopping anyone ever wanting to begin smoking. Mid-teens, is much too late! Start in primary schools, and teach children that this dirty smelly costly addiction kills!
Linda, UK

I'm sorry but I can't see the point! My brother started smoking at 11 – and he knew the age limit – if kids are going to smoke they will, whether it's legal or not.
Maxine, Peterborough, UK

Raising the age is pointless unless it is going to be seriously enforced. Many children under 16 blatantly smoke in public now with no action taken. All smoking in public should be banned completely. Why should I have to breathe toxic fumes when I go in or out of a shopping centre or hospital, or pass a smoker when out running? Aged 28, I started a new job in a workplace where staff smoked, and developed asthma within 2 weeks. Smoking was stopped 6 months later and I have had no problems since. Perhaps someone could design an enclosed hood system so that the smoker gets the full 'benefit' of the cigarette, without anyone else being affected!
Kevin, Oldham, UK

Let people smoke. It's their choice. It also helps with the pension crisis as smokers die early. How can you suddenly tell a 17 year old who is addicted to nicotine that they can not buy it now?
Luke pedhiou, newcastle

As an ex-smoker. I firmly believe that the age should be raised to 18 if not 21 (Which would mean raising the voting/age of consent to 21 again). Also, smokers should not have access to free medical treatment on the NHS. Yes, treatment should be available but smoking is avoidable and should no be treated as 'an accident'. When smoking is banned in public places then passive smoking will be reduced.
Bob Gee, Christchurch, UK

As I read some of these comments I am disgusted. Smokers are being treated worse than lepers. What is the problem? We have rights to smoke and I assure you, I will not stop smoking for anyone. by the way, raising the legal age will only encourage youngsters to start!
|D Drummond, West Lothian

This is a common sense idea that will hopefully have some success in making it difficult for younger children to procure cigarettes, whilst simultaneously making it even less socially acceptable to smoke than it already is.
Jonathan Walker, Leeds, England

So let's get this straight. You'll be able to marry at 16. You'll be able to sleep with your spouse. But you won't be able to light-up afterwards for another five. What is going on!!?
Dominic, London

Raising the legal age won't stop children from taking up smoking. Harsher penalties for those who sell – and those who simply supply (i.e. the adults who buy cigarettes for kids hanging around outside shops) – cigarettes to underage smokers is a better way forward.
Sue, Knebworth

Why stop there? Why not raise the age limit each year, therefore not stopping anyone who already does smoke, but discouraging those who are younger from taking it up. Although at first, this may not seem to have made an impact, when the age rises to 30+ it will be really easy to see if you are only 14!
Liz, Didcot, UK

I agree, at 16 kids aren't their own person, too many of their decisions are dictated by other people in their lives. Still, I believe the majority of 18 year olds find it far easier to say yes than no when offered a cigarette by a friend, it took me until I was 19 before saying no was easier than saying yes.
Leon Kehoe, Flitwick, England.

As a smoker who is trying to stop but finding it incredibly difficult I believe anything that is an incentive to stop is a good thing. Most definitely raise the smoking age, raise fines for selling to underage children and while you are at it make smoking illegal in public places.
Anon, London

Why not ban smoking itself, increasing the age of consent for smoking doesn't make a difference.
labris, Australia

YES ! Smoking should be banned in all public places, and its sale and use, to and by people below 21 shouldn't be allowed. I also think selling the cigarettes at very high prices will discourage youngsters from getting into the habit.
Malhar Khambete, Pune, INDIA

What's the point children as young as 10 ten smoke now, what punishment can be imposed on them? Nothing. Unless you stop smoking completely it's just another farce.
Marcus, Wales

I agree. the legal age should at least be 18. I doubt it would have affected my starting smoking, as I've learned prevention is better than cure!
GARETH, CAERPHILLY

Yes, it won't put off the 'hardcore' people who will smoke come-what-may. But if it puts off the slightly more conscientious people who may otherwise have caved in to peer pressure, then it will be more than worth it.
Matthew Hopps, Rotherham, South Yorkshire, UK

I'm a smoker and in favour of a ban! The way to go about it, is to continuously raise tobacco taxes until nobody is willing to pay any more. Making tobacco more expensive has proved so effective at reducing tobacco sales here in Germany, that the government has a large budget shortfall – the amount of tax they thought would be raised was more than offset by the drop in consumption. Great!
Michael Williamson, Leipzig, Germany

Yes! Raise it to 18, ban it in all public places and raise the price of a packet of cigarettes to £8.00! Anything to get this smelly habit out of my face in pubs and clubs.
Jon Harrison, Hartington, West Derbyshire

If you raise the age limit I think it will encourage more children to take up smoking not less. Children will just see it as a more grown up thing to do and people will continue selling to them. I agree with many here that it would be wiser to punish the shops for selling them to the under aged instead. I think the three offences and you lose your licence permanently sounds perfectly reasonable.
Jamie Ferguson, Edinburgh and Amsterdam

The apparent wish for more authoritarian measures against smoking is just a knee-jerk response from people unable to control their own lives. I don't smoke, I never have. So if you want to stop smoking then you choose to do so and not expect others to do it for you. There needs to be more persuasion and less of the law. The authorities cannot make the existing laws pertaining to smoking work so what use are even more laws?
Nigel Wilson, Buckingham, UK

I believe that this debate is an irrelevant smokescreen to divert public attention from the real issue of banning smoking in all public places, both indoors and outside. When I am walking along the street and I suddenly become surrounded by somebody else's tobacco smoke, I feel that I have been assaulted. Let us follow the example of New York and Eire, but also ban smoking from everywhere except private homes.
Bob Wright, London

Raise the smoking age to 18, ban smoking in ALL public places and at work. Raise fines for selling cigarettes to underage people and fine parents of underage smokers.
Mike Jones, Maidenhead, Berkshire

Yes! I'm not naive enough to think it will stop all underage smoking but it will definitely discourage it. The lungs of these children are still growing…..they shouldn't be able to legally destroy their body until at least 21!
Maureen, Florida

I do agree that the age limit for smoking should be raised to 18. After all, here is a habit which is certainly not less harmful than alcohol so it follows that the age limit should be equalised with the legal drinking age. Raising the age limit may make young people think twice before taking up the habit as well.
Paul Phillips, Birmingham, UK

Raising the legal age of smoking will not deter teens. The only thing that will work is for their parents to stop smoking and to make smoking completely uncool in the eyes of society.
Anna, Glasgow

Enough shop keepers continue to sell cigarettes, alcohol, fireworks etc, to children. Perhaps if they were irrevocably banned from stocking or selling such items once caught, a difference can be made.
Keith Halewood, Tonbridge, UK

I'm 18 and I don't smoke at all, don't see the point in it. However if people want to kill themselves then it's their choice. There is already education about smoking and drinking in schools, but it's too late. I didn't receive any decent education about the dangers of drink and tobacco until I was 15, this is far too late in my opinion. Youngsters should be educated about this as soon as they start senior school at 11 and it should be reinforced every year until they leave. That might make people start to think. And maybe former smokers, alcoholics, drug takers coming into schools may make an impact. Failing that, maybe just using older school pupils to talk to younger ones may be just as effective if not more. I spoke to a class of 13 year olds (as simply an older person who wasn't a teacher) when I was at school (aged 18) and I received lots of positive feedback. In my opinion this tactic should be used much more.
Emily, Bristol

I agree the age of smoking should be raised but who's going to effectively police the ban?
Ian, Norfolk UK

This is going too far, I smoke but don't drink alcohol. My personality doesn't change when I smoke a cigarette, unlike alcohol. How much tax payers money is wasted on police time, the NHS and repairing damage on property because of alcohol? I still have to hear and suffer the loud behaviour caused by drinking. Smoking does stink but so does diesel fumes from buses and cars which are just as likely to cause cancer, but I still have to breath these in. Why don't we just ban everything then no one can complain.
Mr smith,

If you want to smoke then go ahead. I'd rather see this government outlaw alcohol, it causes more social problems than smoking!
Bob Knox, Alnwick, England

No it should stay the same! If anything it should be lowered because me and a lot of my friends are under 16 and we still smoke and don't care about it's effects. It doesn't mater if it gets raised because we will all still smoke! If the age is raised it just means by the time we are legal to smoke we would probably have given it up! There are a lot of us who are underage smokers.
Ajay, Maidstone

Raising the legal smoking age to 18 is not really addressing the problem. Many young people, by the time they reach 16 have worked out that smoking is not a smart idea. Issuing official photo-ID to over 16s and then making it clear that retailers will have their tobacco licence removed permanently after three offences would probably make the corner shops and off licences think twice before flouting the law.
Andrew Taylor, Nottingham, UK

16-18-21 It makes no difference, if someone wants to smoke they will. Raising the age limit is pretty pointless. People will still be able to buy or get their hands on cigarettes. I think it's utter rubbish raising the age limit, it's just a pointless gesture.
Spencer, UK

The law only says that you must not purchase cigarettes if you are under 16 or have them purchased for you. It doesn't say that you can't smoke. So what's the point in changing the legal age? If the police charged everyone under 16 who was caught smoking they wouldn't have time for important things.
Keith, Chepstow, Wales

I'm a smoker but I also believe the sale of cigarettes, to anyone, should be completely banned in the UK. No matter what the civil liberties arguments are we have a priority to defend the health and lives of children.
Andrew B, Weymouth, England

It doesn't matter what the legal age for smoking is, children will still do it. Even if the cost of cigarettes was doubled, people would still smoke. Whenever the price of cigarettes goes up in the Budget, I never hear anyone complain, the same people still seem to smoke. People will only give it up if they really want to. They will buy them no matter what the cost, even if it meant giving up eating proper food to pay for their habit.
Heather, Manchester

The legal age for buying cigarettes in Ireland is 18, however this does not stop smoking in young people, in the same way that those under 18 still drink and buy alcohol. It just means that it will be harder for them to get cigarettes, although I feel this will only make them more persistent
Nick McClory, London

I smoked for 47 years, I started when I was 14. When kids ask me to get them cigarettes I offer them a puff on my inhaler. I have not had much of a life but the only thing I truly regret is starting to smoke. What a waste, I would not encourage anyone on this earth to smoke I have finally stopped because I had to, it's killing me. I am buying a new car with the money I save, although it's too late my quality of life is ruined. Keep showing the adverts, keep on telling the kids, if just one takes notice it's worthwhile.
Alan, Romford England

If they are old enough to pay taxes and have sex then I think they are old enough to have a smoke.
Craig Milne, Kirkcaldy, Scotland

Ban it altogether! If you want to smoke, smoke in your own home and suffer alone, but don't condemn the rest of us to a slow and painful death.
Charlie, UK

Raising the smoking age will only make it more enticing. Teens desperately want to be adults and do adult things. They take risks to partake of things that adults do such as drink and smoking. Raising the age will simply drive them to steal cigarettes from their parents.
Lydia, UK

There should be one age of consent – for marriage, voting, drinking, sex, driving and smoking and that should be 18.
Wendy, UK

I totally agree, the age should be equalised with the minimum drinking age. More importantly all retailers selling cigarettes should be licensed as for alcohol. Then those caught selling cigarettes to children could lose their licence.
Carl, Cambridge, UK

One of the main comments raised is that under 18's will smoke anyway so why bother? Talk about defeatist! The tobacco companies know if some one does not start smoking until they are 18 they probably never will. We must increase the social stigma attached to smoking so that everyone agrees it is a bad thing. Making it illegal to sell to under 18's will increase fines ten fold. Incidentally if I hear one more smoking moaning that their tax is needed by the government I will scream. We would not need this tax if our hospitals and medical services are empty of those suffering the consequences of their habit, remember smokers you do not have 'rights' you have an addiction.
John, Stockton on Tees

To John: I am baffled by your comment "remember smokers you do not have rights, you have an addiction". It is an addiction like any other social drug i.e. alcohol, coffee. Smokers DO HAVE rights like anyone else and it is the individuals choice to smoke. I have been smoking since I was 12 and I do not want to give it up because I enjoy it and it gets me through the day. I legally buy them in bulk aboard to avoid the UK's high tax. My grandfather has been smoking 60 a day since he was 14 and has never been in hospital, he's a very fit 91 year old. My views on this subject – raising the age will have no effect, Kids will get fags just like they can drink.
Dan, Crawley

Having seen shop keepers selling cigarettes to kids who are clearly under 16, I think they should be the first ones to be targeted before any change. What's the point in increasing the age from 16 to 18 or 21 if no-one enforces the existing law? But I do think the age limit should be increased ultimately as a 16 year old is not even fully developed physically! I also think pregnant mothers should be banned from smoking for the sake of their unborn babies!
Clare, England

People will smoke whatever other people want. My mother smoked for 50 years and it robbed her of at last 15 more years with her grandchildren. It's deadly to smoke but people will, all we can do as a society is discourage it as much as we can and that does mean a ban in public places but not a raising of the legal age
Barry Lowry, Hornchurch Essex UK

Anyone thought of the link between youngsters smoking and where the cigarettes are usually sold (i.e. behind a counter where kids also buy sweets).
David, UK

Any law is only effective if it is enforced, and I can't see the police wasting their time with a report that a 16 year old has just been caught smoking!
Rich, UK

I smoke; I smoke too much. Legislation per se will not persuade me to give up or reduce the amount of tobacco used. Why not stop supermarkets and corner shops selling tobacco products? In other words reduce the availability and the demand may well reduce.
Dave, Norwich

A law that's effectively un-enforceable isn't a law it's a vote winning gimmick. There's no problem for under-16 year old kids getting cigs now (or any kind of drug come to think of it) so raising the age limit isn't going to have any effect. But the effectiveness of a crusade isn't judged by whether it works but by how good it makes the crusaders feel.
John Small, Faversham, UK

Even if the legal age was raised people would still get cigarettes. How do you think children get hold of alcohol and drugs? There will always be someone willing to buy cigarettes for them and shops who do not care what age these kids are. I have seen kids who look no older than thirteen served with alcohol in shops who are more concerned with profit than the dangers of cigarettes and alcohol to underage children.
Helen, Wirral, UK

Why ban something when you can effectively stop it other ways. A number of people have mentioned banning it in public places which to some extent would work. But why not make it almost impossible for youngsters to afford cigarettes? If the price was pushed way up then they couldn't afford to smoke. Yet those who do want to smoke can, and the cost can be to the pocket as well as to their health.
Chris, Leicester

I think that it's clearly obvious that no one takes any notice of age limits on things these days as no one can be bothered to enforce them. Raising the age limit would only be done as a political stunt if surveys like this show it might be a vote winner. The only real way to stop children smoking is for their parents to take a responsible attitude and try and educate them but to be honest, responsibility isn't a word in the UK vocabulary anymore.
Sam, London

I cannot see that raising the legal age of smoking will make any difference at all as most smokers start before it's legal anyway! Making it a bit more difficult, like banning smoking in public places is more likely to be effective because they just won't have anywhere to go when they are young, and might have grown out of the idea by the time they are older. This country needs a review on age limits in general anyway, being legally allowed to have a baby and smoke at 16, but having to wait till 18 to drink and vote! Its all messed up and needs review!
Lisa, Harwich, England

All this anti-smoking attitude has gone too far, the age limit is fine as it is. The government just need to issue a proper id card for 16yr olds, which is freely available. This is the only way tobacconists can be sure they aren't breaking the law by selling cigarettes to under age children. The present system of judging by appearance, is extremely deceptive.
Nick, Cardiff

To all the smokers who are too quick to point out the tax they pay: if smoking was banned, it would save billions in reduced healthcare and other costs. If there was still a shortfall due to the loss of revenue from taxes, I'd be more than happy to see my taxes rise if it would finally banish this dirty habit. It's just impossible for smokers to understand how unpleasant it is for non-smokers to have to breathe in their smoke, whether in a restaurant, railway station, or simply walking past you in the street.
Jonathan, Leicester, UK

Legal age limits are there purely for those of us who are want to be convinced that these laws work. The truth is that if you raise an age limit then that activity is going to be all the more appealing to teenagers.
Max Richards, Wales

I suffer from Asthma and avoid cigarette smoke. Recently we went out for a meal and reserved a table in non-smoking. Half way through our meal, the person behind me started to smoke as the boundary was behind my chair. Unfortunately we were forced to leave as no alternative table could be found. Whilst I don't support a ban, I do feel that young people should not be encouraged to smoke by their peers.
Caron, England

Smoking should be made permanently illegal for anyone born after 1988. The ban would affect no one who legally smokes today, but will save the next generation.
Geoffrey Teabo, London, UK

It won't make any difference. I still see children as young as 8 years old smoking cigarettes. They get them by pestering adults to go into shops to purchase them on their behalf. Raising the smoking age will not stop this.
Maurice, UK

Given that a large number of 11-15 year olds smoke already, when it's supposedly illegal before the age of 16, I doubt this would make much difference. I personally wish smoking had never started in the first place. A good start would be to force tobacco companies to shut down, then there would be no more cigarettes, that's a good start.
Emily, Leeds, UK

What a lot of nonsense! Sex at 16 but can't smoke until 18?
Dave, Reading Berks

To Dave, Reading. Sex isn't bad for you! I would like to see a consistent approach. Vote, drink beer, smoke, drive all at 18. Lets make 18 a very clear point moving from child to adult. Once your an adult its your own personal choice.
Chris Davies, Chippenham, UK

It seems strange to me that smokers are so reviled; they pay a fortune in tax and die early so we don't have to pay them a pension. They cost the NHS money, but so does everyone towards the end of their life, smokers just do it earlier. Perhaps if we are to remove smokers rights to NHS treatment we ought to also remove the rights of everyone else that takes risks with their health: fat people, extreme sports fans, older mothers etc. They take risks with their health but pay no extra tax over their lifetime. We ought to be encouraging more smokers to save the tax burden if nothing else.
Chris, Bradford, UK

Yet another restraint on our civil liberties. Has it ever occurred to you that a 16 year old may actually enjoy this LEGAL activity? We are probably more aware of the dangers than you!
Derek Gogley (aged 16), Reading, Berkshire

This country is so hypocritical – people want smoking bans in pubs, want to raise the age limit etc – the only way to really make a dent in the number of people smoking is to completely ban the selling of cigarettes. However, no one is willing to make up the short fall in taxes this would create, and the government is loath to end such a money spinner. If people really want to stop smoking this is the only real way to do it, and they must bite the bullet and pay the tax increases. What does make me angry is the government spending millions on advertising, stop-smoking campaigns and hospital care for smokers, whilst gladly taking the duty it generates. Completely ban smoking and the selling of tobacco, fund massive "work-shops" to help people to stop and maybe, just maybe, smoking will disappear. I'm a smoker by the way.
Luke, London, UK

Raising the legal age for smoking isn't going to stop young people from smoking. The age for drinking is 18, I see teenagers every weekend drunk. The legal age for having sex is 16 but that doesn't stop the hundreds of teenage pregnancies every year. The only thing that will stop people from smoking is by making it illegal to smoke in public places, so the only place you can smoke is at home. Both my parents died from smoking related diseases, I've never even tried a cigarette, nor want to. I would welcome a ban on smoking in public places, and so would a lot of other people.
Emma, Wales

As a former chain smoker myself, and knowing what I went through trying to give it up, I think 16 is a very immature age to start. By the time one gets to 18 though, I think one should have matured enough to decide whether to destroy their health or not.
Abba Shaib, Paris

The legal age should be raised to 21 or higher and the NHS should refuse to treat people with self-inflicted smoking diseases. It should become illegal to smoke anywhere in public, including your own back garden, and the tax on cigarettes should be raise so they cost £50 a packet
Tom, London, UK

When you reach 18 you are less influenced by peer pressure and able to make better informed decisions. If it stops a few kids taking up the habit then it's a start and worth it.
Nick, Watford, Herts, UK

Yes, raise the legal age for purchasing cigarettes to 21 (not 18) and alcohol to 21 as well. Still allow smoking and drinking from the age of 16 provided they are accompanied by a parent/guardian. Also ban smoking in all public places and ban smoking in front of children (even in private places). I would also lower (not raise) the duty on cigarettes and alcohol to reduce the smuggling.
Gary Russell, Peterborough, England

Changing the legal age will not make much difference. I think it should be banned from all public areas though.
Anon, Newbury, Berks

So, by making the legal age 18 that will stop youngsters starting to smoke? It will not make any difference; they will still start to smoke early.
Steve, Burnley UK

The age should definitely be raised, along with the age for legally purchasing alcohol too! By the age of 18, many people will actually realise how stupid and damaging smoking is, and may have a more mature attitude towards it.
Andy, Leeds, UK

It should defiantly be raised to 18 (at least), at the age of 16, youngsters are still to impressionable, and start smoking due to peer pressure. At 18, this peer effect is less. I'm pretty sure if you ask most smokers why they started, the answer will be peer pressure. In addition to raising the age, the government should consider selling cigarettes to people underage a more serious offence, perhaps even making it a prisonable offence, or at least removing the retailers licence to trade.
Mark G, Weymouth

Changing the legal age for smoking will make little difference as part of the lure of smoking for the young is that it's an adult pursuit banned for youngsters. Banning smoking in all public places will do more to reduce smoking as it will reduce the habit of smoking all round.
JohnM, LyneMeads,UK

The smoking age limit is already one of the best recruiting sergeants the tobacco companies have. Raising it will only make it more effective from that standpoint. Experience should have taught us that this kind of law is almost impossible to enforce.
David Anderson, Wakefield, West Yorkshire

I don't think raising the age will make that much difference. The law needs to be changed making it an offence to attempt to buy cigarettes underage as well as an offence to sell them. As someone who has worked in a newsagents you find that the same kids come in night after night try to buy cigarettes and alcohol and become abusive when they are refused.
Cat, Cambridge UK

If they want to smoke they will, but if you were to deny any smoker the right to use any NHS facility e.g. a visit to the doctor and make them pay private then it might change their minds after all how much NHS money is wasted on people who smoke?
William , UK

I think we should turn this debate on it's head. People are always saying that children want to smoke because it seems like an adult thing to do. Well let kids do it then, in fact it would be prudent to make them smoke a cigarette. If we take away the mysticism of cigarettes, then the compulsion to start will go away. It is also well known that tobacco companies put flavourers into the cigarettes to make the experience more enjoyable. How about if we force them to make the experience LESS enjoyable? What kid would want to suck on something that is seen as normal, tastes truly disgusting, and is nothing special?
Nelson Sa, Oxford, UK

Raising the legal smoking age will not make a difference as kids like doing illegal things as it's "cool". Raising the prices and banning smoking in public areas such as workplaces, pubs, cafes, beaches will do the job much more efficiently. Look at the US where smoking is on the decline.
Conny, Leeds

As most people start smoking between the ages of 10-15, putting up the age limit isn't going to make any difference whatsoever!
Sue Hudson, London, UK

Unfortunately raising the age that people need to be to buy these vile things will have no affect at all. Greedy shopkeepers with pound signs in their eyes will continue to flout the law whether the legal age to buy tobacco is 18 or 80. A far better idea would be to ban this evil product altogether.
Kevin Hogan, Birmingham UK

I don't think a change of the legal age will make any difference at all. Put up tobacco prices to £10 or £15 a pack and change will come soon.
Fran, Germany

Since when has the current limit made any discernable difference at all to pre-16s smoking? There are plenty of off licenses who are either unable to tell, or not bothered either way about a persons age when it comes to cigarettes. It's not as if cigarettes are difficult to buy for them. Also, kids routinely wait outside these shops and ask older people to buy cigarettes (and drinks) for them, and this isn't going to change by upping the minimum age by 2 years. Unlike others who have commented I don't think it will make smoking more taboo, I don't think these changes would make a blind bit of difference.
Darren Coleman, Westbury, UK

If a young person would only listen to the ones who have smoked for years. Smoking is a nasty stinky habit that is hard to break. If they only realized how most of us have smoked for years how much some of us wished we would of never started. Regardless of what you do if there's a will there's a way. You can raise the age limit to anywhere you want but it's not going to stop them from smoking. The more you fight against this with teens the more it draws them to it.
anon,

Trying to get teenagers not to smoke by making it more wrong than it already is? Hmmm. Don't think so. Make something taboo and you instantly raise it's appeal to young people. Effective education about the dangers of smoking would be better. Putting the legal age of smoking up isn't going to stop kids smoking. It will cost lots of money to administer though.
Kate, West Midlands

The legal smoking age must be raised to 18. Youngsters are a lot more mature at 18 rather than at 16. Because of this the rate of younger smokers could fall.
gajen, Kenton

The obvious solution is to make underage drinking/smoking an arrest able offence, and have vans of police officers go around picking up offenders, arresting them and confiscating the offending goods. While issuing court summons and fines, and making the parents come into the police station to collect the children.
Nathan Hobbs, Luton, UK

Raising the smoking age is not going to prevent people from smoking, or starting smoking. People who sell tobacco to underage children should suffer steep penalties. Changing the age of legality will only serve to make smoking a more enticing taboo amongst the younger generation.
Dan, Manchester UK

A couple of months ago I saw a gang of 10-12 years olds walking around smoking at Blackpool Pleasure Beach. Will this make any difference? Doubtful.
Paul Weaver, London, UK

As a penitent smoker who has yet to give up but doesn't want others to start I think a raising of the legal age would be a good idea to a certain extent. Unfortunately I don't think it will do an awful lot to stop children and young people smoking as it would probably just make it seem more rebellious and 'grown up'.
Doug McKerracher, Swindon, UK

Raising the age limit on Smoking will only make it "cooler" in the eyes of teenagers. Prohibition always does more damage than good. Education is the best tool we can use. By the age of 16 a person is mature enough to make up their own minds. Don't confuse law with preference. We would like 16 year olds to stop smoking, but we have no right to force them.
Adrian Bowley, Bracknell, UK

As a non smoker I'd say yes but it seems a bit hypocritical to let people get married and have children before they are allowed to smoke. I think it would be more effective to strictly enforce the current age limit – no more ice cream vans selling single cigarettes outside schools at lunchtime!
Fiona, Scotland

Utterly pointless. Kids start smoking before 16 anyways. Why not try enforcing the current legislation on shopkeepers rather than yet again inventing more new laws that won't be acted on?
Mike, Carlisle

And what difference is this going to make. The legal age for drinking is already 18. Take a look around the towns and cities on a Friday night to see if anybody, including the police actually cares.
Paul, UK

As a large proportion of children start smoking well before the age of 16 ( just look round the housing estates at night ) what good will changing the age limit do? More has to be done to educate them not to start and prosecute the relatives, friends and retailers that allow them access to smoking materials.
Steve Roberts, Oxfordshire

Sorry Steve from Oxfordshire – youngsters who don't live on housing estates also smoke as well! Raising the age will do no good – more money collected from the tax on cigarettes should be ploughed into educating young people about the dire consequences of smoking – while we are about it, why not ban smoking from all public places ? And I am a smoker
Pauline, London

When will people realise that teenagers will smoke, drink and have sex when they feel like it and banning it won't help a thing? The best thing we can do is educate them and have them figure it out for themselves.
Matt, Plymouth

Ban it altogether. It is, after all, a harmful drug with no benefit at all.
Moo, London, UK

I think raising the age would not make much of a difference. Teens will get alcohol under age so they will be able to get fags as well. I think the government should make tobacco illegal – it isn't necessary and harms millions.
K A Howlett, Cambridge, Cambs.

Absolutely. And while they're at it, raise the legal drinking age to 21, and the legal driving age to 25. That would improve the quality of life no end.
Edward, UK

Does it really matter what the legal age is? There are smokers now who aren't over 16, and drinkers who aren't over 18. The health organisations give enough warnings about the dangers of smoking, the warning notices are on every single packet, so there isn't much more we can do if people want to kill themselves with smoke.
Rachel Davis, Gloucester, UK

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